X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C513A3E12; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:56:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28933-03; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:55:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosting.commandprompt.com (128.commandprompt.com [207.173.200.128]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2773A5506; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:56:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (clbb-248.saw.net [64.146.135.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iB3FtvaW013029; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:56:00 -0800 Message-ID: <41B08C6D.10402@commandprompt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:55:25 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Treat Cc: Justin Clift , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: merging advocacy and "overview" References: <200412020046.01178.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> <200412020918.22719.josh@a gliodbs.com> <20041202105209.R13004@cookie.varlena.com> <200412021107.23182. josh@agliodbs.com> <1102019097.2440.94.camel@camel> <20041202163843.O46440@ganymede.hub.org> <1102021930.2441.108.camel@camel> <41B02317.7020201@postgresql.org> <1102085621.2440.296.camel@camel> In-Reply-To: <1102085621.2440.296.camel@camel> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040408050404040504090609" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.044 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200412/56 X-Sequence-Number: 6175 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040408050404040504090609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > One reason why I've >always insisted that if we were going to put the weekly news on the web >we would do it on a community controlled website is because I don't want >things to go there. Apparently I'm in the minority on this position >though. > > I don't believe you are the minority with this position. All of your points of valid and I agree with them. From Command Prompt's position, it wasn't UNTIL we started offering code back, and providing services to the community directly that we received recognition. An example is Practical PostgreSQL. That book has been online since the day it hit shelves, free for anyone to use. But it isn't the same as say donating patches to ECPG or PlPerl which gets directly injected into the community. Practical PostgreSQL is a community resource, but it is not community sponsored. This doesn't mean that someone's (like Varlena) contributions aren't welcome or appreciated but they are not PostgreSQL projects. At first this was an annoyance but as we have become more involved and seen how things worked, it makes sense. Although not all of our community giveback is controlled or directed via the community this is because some of it must maintain a commercial interest. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > >Robert Treat > > -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth PostgreSQL - S/ODBC and S/JDBC Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. +1-503-667-4564 - jd@commandprompt.com - http://www.commandprompt.com PostgreSQL Replicator -- production quality replication for PostgreSQL --------------040408050404040504090609 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="jd.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jd.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Joshua Drake n:Drake;Joshua org:Command Prompt, Inc. adr:;;PO Box 215 ;Cascade Locks;OR;97014;US email;internet:jd@commandprompt.com title:Consultant tel;work:503-667-4564 tel;fax:503-210-0334 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.commandprompt.com version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040408050404040504090609--