X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13009DD6A2; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:22:00 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92666-02; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:21:56 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from trolak.mydnsbox2.com (ns1.mydnsbox2.com [207.44.142.118]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEA39DD689; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:21:55 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-024-211-165-134.nc.res.rr.com [24.211.165.134]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by trolak.mydnsbox2.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id jB1HdkM21549; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 11:39:47 -0600 Message-ID: <438F312A.4080602@dunslane.net> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:21:46 -0500 From: Andrew Dunstan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922 Fedora/1.7.12-1.3.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Page CC: "Marc G. Fournier" , Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Euler Taveira de Oliveira , Richard Huxton , Robert Treat , Magnus Hagander , pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Tom Lane Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Upcoming PG re-releases References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=5 tests=[none] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200512/12 X-Sequence-Number: 8953 Dave Page wrote: > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org >>[mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier >>Sent: 01 December 2005 17:01 >>To: Peter Eisentraut >>Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Euler Taveira de Oliveira; >>Richard Huxton; Robert Treat; Magnus Hagander; Marc G. >>Fournier; pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Tom Lane; Andrew Dunstan >>Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Upcoming PG re-releases >> >>On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> >> >> >>>Am Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2005 11:35 schrieb Euler Taveira >>> >>> >>de Oliveira: >> >> >>>>What about an museum.postgresql.org to keep the old releases? >>>> >>>> >>>That gave me a good laugh, but there is something to be >>> >>> >>said about moving all >> >> >>>no longer supported releases (according to the criteria >>> >>> >>that are being >> >> >>>discussed) to an unmirrored site, say, archive.postgresql.org. >>> >>> >>That would be fairly trivial ... let me add it to the 'todo >>list' ... I >>take it that it would be safe to relegate the /pub/source/OLD >>stuff there >>too? >> >> > >Not so trivial to put behind a web interface or the download tracker >though. Is it really necessary to have a separate archive downloads >site? It's not like the old ones get in the way, or cost anything other >than disk space on the mirrors to store (and I've only ever heard mirror >admins say how small our site is compared to many others!). > >Plus of course, weren't we trying to reduce the number of VMs/sites? > > > > Agreed. I see no virtue in this at all. If we continue to make stuff available it must be because someone will need it. I can see that happening if some catastrophe happens on an old system, in which case the person hunting is likely to need to find it easily and possibly fast. The network traffic involved in mirroring something that doesn't change is usually trivial, and disk space seems to be at most a few $ per Gb these days, so surely this is not a resource issue. cheers andrew