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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:25:43 -0800
From: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
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To: "Gavin M. Roy" <gmr@ehpg.net>
CC: Darcy Buskermolen <darcy@wavefire.com>, gforge-admins@pgfoundry.org,
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Subject: Re: [Gforge-admins] PgFoundry Move
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Gavin M. Roy wrote:
>> My concerns with a plan like this are:
>> A) I do not know linux as well as FreeBSD.
>
> 80% of the Gforge admins are Linux guys afaik, which is why we need 
> more FreeBSD help.
Correct but the pool of Linux helpers is getting larger by the day. FreeBSD
isn't, at least not at nearly the same rate.

>
>
>> B) Can infrastructure be provided to allow for timely disaster 
>> recovery in the
>> event of JD's hosting falling off the face of the earth, (much the 
>> same way
>> the pg servers in panama fell off a while ago).
>
> We don't have this *really* in the case of most of the infrastructure,
We do have this with CMD though.

> and this isn't in place for pgFoundry right now with Marc hosting, 
> afaik.  It is an issue we should be concerned with regardless of who's 
> hosting.  That and backup.  I've tried to address what's happening (or 
> not happening as I'm afraid) with backup before.
We would back up this machine a minimum of once a day and could do it 
more if we liked.
We can also replicate the database.

>> C) How do we settle on the distro/version of the month, this 
>> fundamental issue
>> within Linux has always left me with a bad taste in my mouth. (this is a
>> personal item and has nothing to say for the quality of FreeBSD or
>> Linux/distro).

> Unlike *BSD?  Generally there have been distros like Debian and 
> Slackware that have been server grade for over 10 years and are 
> solid.  I think the distro of the month is a unwarranted slam from 
> FreeBSD people who don't see that others see BSD the same way (Free, 
> Net, Open, etc) just with less choice for their respective 
> communities.  There are lots of Linux distros.  Some are better at the 
> desktop, some are better at the server.  Coming up with a consensus of 
> what to use would be pretty easy to do.  That being said, I don't 
> foresee a day that we'd use Linux just because everything else is 
> running on FreeBSD.  Being consistent is a good thing.
Well the distro of the month argument is a farse. We would use a well 
known linux distro and we would stick with it. We are primarily
a Redhat/FC house and Ubuntu house.

>
>> D) How does doing something like this affect -core in general (I'm 
>> not part of
>> core so i have no idea)
>>
>
> I don't think it general does.  PgFoundry is isolated away from -core.

That is correct it doesn't effect core at all.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake
>
> Regards,
>
> Gavin
>
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