X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3529B9DCA36 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:38:32 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28513-05 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:38:29 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: delayed 23:40:03.534305 by SQLgrey- Received: from outmail128159.authsmtp.com (outmail128159.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B849DCA9B for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:38:25 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (dsl081-245-111.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.245.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Kp) with ESMTP id k2SIc1XB093105; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:38:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4429828E.5060507@agliodbs.com> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:38:06 -0800 From: Josh Berkus User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Magnus Hagander CC: "Marc G.Fournier" , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: fundraising@postgresql.org References: <6BCB9D8A16AC4241919521715F4D8BCEA351EE@algol.sollentuna.se> In-Reply-To: <6BCB9D8A16AC4241919521715F4D8BCEA351EE@algol.sollentuna.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Quench: fd66cafa-be89-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633136333939.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.083 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.083] X-Spam-Score: 0.083 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200603/170 X-Sequence-Number: 9760 Magnus, > Does the foundation exist at all? ;-) No, we now have a fund at Software in the Public Interest. This removes from us the burden of running an NPO, something we just didn't have the resources to do. > I'd say @postgresql.org, just to disagree with your. Or rather, because > it shuold be clearly shown that it's a part of the core project and not > some addon - I assume this is for ppl who want to ask question about > whom to give all their money etc? It's a little more complex than that. What we need is a coordination area for the Fundraising Group. The FG will control the funds at Software in The Public Interest, and their German affiliate, FFIV. However, there are PostgreSQL NPOs in France and Japan whose relationship to the FG is not yet defined. Oh, and before the clamor starts, there will be a membership shuffle in the FG and new people will be invited to join to make it more representative of PostgreSQL.org as a whole. Right now, we're in the process of drafting a charter ... at least, we were when the mailing list went down. So, we currently need one list for the FG. However, when we speak of raising money for PostgreSQL in general, that needs to encompass JPUG and PostgreSQL.Fr, and possibly other organizations in the future. So it'll probably be two lists, one for the FG related to the SPI funds and one for the main coordinating body for money issues which might consist of representatives from each of the organizations. Therefore ... I'm leaning towards the pgfoundry project for the FG, at least until we get organized. Complicated enough for you? It's so PostgreSQL! --Josh Berkus