X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E560311F6C3C; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:54:41 -0300 (ADT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Score: 0.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.12 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.120] Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P2asqmvZ7Y+M; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:54:28 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from projects.commandprompt.com (host-130.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.130]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1230311F6C31; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:54:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.15.100] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.sprint-hsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by projects.commandprompt.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k38HsgYK027580; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:54:42 -0700 Message-ID: <4437F8E3.6060202@commandprompt.com> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:54:43 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PostgreSQL Advocacy , PostgreSQL WWW Subject: Further SPI References: <200603011124.21187.peter_e@gmx.net> <20060322201226.4AD8D180B701@knuth.cbbrowne.com> <4421FBCB.5030908@calorieking.com> <4423485E.4030009@commandprompt.com> In-Reply-To: <4423485E.4030009@commandprompt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (projects.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:54:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Archive-Number: 200604/15 X-Sequence-Number: 9791 Hello, Let me first say that I know the intent of the SPI is good and I did vote for the transition to it. However as I see the implementation of its abilities I am embarrased. Here is the current way to donate via SPI to PostgreSQL online: 1. Via web browser use the following path: http://www.spi-inc.org/ 2. Look all around the page to see blue on blue hyper link called "Donations" on the right hand page. 3. Click "Donations" : http://www.spi-inc.org/donations 4. Click "Donations of Money" which is an internal page ref that drops down the page to "Donations of Money" informational paragraphs. Read through paragraphs, see that I can "mail a check" (we just lost 90% of our ability to receive a donation). Further reading shows that we can click on a "Donate Now through the network of good"... Who the heck is this? I thought I was donating through SPI? 5. Click "Donate Now through the network of good" even though I don't know them, the page does say.... "If I have a credit card from a financial instituion in the United States". So I am assuming they are a broker of some sort. 6. Once I click on the "Donate Now through the network of good" I am taken to: "Donate Now through the network of good". Which still says not one thing about PostgreSQL but does give me a nice link about donating to SPI and a nice big button that says "Donate Now". 7. Click "Donate Now", I am taken to a page that allows me to donate to SPI but says nothing about PostgreSQL. I am able to "Designate" or "Dedication or Gift". Which means I could write in the name PostgreSQL and in theory PostgreSQL would see the donation. What if I type in Postgres, Pg, PSQL, or PGSQL? What if I mispel it? You can't make "assumptions" with people's money. What if I say, PostgreSQL + Debian? At this point I am going to close my browser and forget about it. Most others will close their browser and forget about it at number 4. or 5 if they even get that far. Donated via SPI should be one button/link and one button link only. You should have two options: 1. Send a check/money order 2. Via Credit Card (US card holders only) The first link should take them to a page that describes in no more than 5 or 6 sentences how to send a check. The second link should take them to a page that says: Donate to PostgreSQL Project Enter Amount Enter Credit Card Information / Create account. Anymore then that and we have cut our own wrists with donations. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/