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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:41:23 -0400
From: Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
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To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
CC: Lukas Kahwe Smith <smith@pooteeweet.org>, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Getting a move on for 8.2 beta
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Lukas Kahwe Smith <smith@pooteeweet.org> writes:
>   
>>> For example I have no expertise in coding on Postgres, but I think I 
>>> would be able to collect information from this mailinglist (like specs, 
>>> url's etc.) and put them in some issue tracker or wiki. I have done 
>>> exactly the same for PHP [1] (though there are rarely specs thrown 
>>> around in PHP, so my PHP todo list is not much more than a simple bullet 
>>> list of todo's with a name and occasional URL's to additional information).
>>>       
>
>   
>> Actually I should add that I went ahead and created the PHP todo list on 
>> my own, without any official blessing and one by one internals developer 
>> have joined. Now its actively used in the entire release process.
>>     
>
>   
>> This is probably the best approach to go about doing this for PostgreSQL 
>> as well.
>>     
>
> I agree.  Look at the most successful recent process change around here:
> the buildfarm.  Andrew Dunstan took it upon himself to make that happen.
> He built it, and they came.
>   


:-)

The difference is that the buildfarm could get going with effort only 
from me and a handful of early adopters, while a tracker probably needs 
higher level of initial community buyin. Nevertheless, I take your point.

> No bug/issue tracker, or anything else, is going to be successful unless
> somebody commits enough time to make it so.  I've noted a whole lot of
> enthusiasm for having a tracker in these recent discussions, but a
> remarkable shortage of individuals stepping up to do the work.
>
>
>   

You are right that it will need ongoing effort.

There are discussions happening about resources. Stay tuned.

cheers

andrew