Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17579FB304 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:10:34 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59714-02 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:10:27 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA16E9FB2FD for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:10:27 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l16FAMEa013983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Feb 2007 07:10:23 -0800 Message-ID: <45C89A5D.6040902@commandprompt.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:10:21 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Lane CC: Magnus Hagander , josh@agliodbs.com, pgsql-www@postgresql.org, Devrim GUNDUZ Subject: Re: Switching to mailman (Re: [Fwd: NDN: Re: [ODBC] Connect without queries?]) References: <45C388B4.4010407@commandprompt.com> <1170713191.3056.34.camel@laptop.gunduz.org> <200702051417.53383.josh@agliodbs.com> <45C7C5EC.9040503@commandprompt.com> <20070206090153.GI6515@svr2.hagander.net> <9311.1170774252@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <9311.1170774252@sss.pgh.pa.us> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:10:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/104 X-Sequence-Number: 11509 Tom Lane wrote: > Magnus Hagander writes: >> I'm more concerned that we seem to be hitting a *lot* of bugs in mj2 >> that nobody else has seen, which tells me that not a lot of people are >> using it. > > I dunno about a lot of bugs --- it strikes me that we are just pickier > than average. For instance Bruce's complaint about wrapped lines is > something that would just not ever come up in most contexts. I would agree with that, however there is another argument and that is one of community. Mailman is pretty much the defacto mailing list software out there. It is used in extremely large installations including sites such as SourceForge. It has an active community. Heck it even has a freenode channel that people talk on. There is a point, where it makes sense from a support and community standpoint to move on. Mj2 may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, except that I know of no one that uses it but us, and had never even heard of it until we brought out of its dying attic and mentioned its name. Lastly, more and more people are mentioning moving to mailman for management purposes. Yes there is the password issue, which is just one of laziness more than anything. Other than that, I see no reason not to move to Mailman. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > regards, tom lane > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/