Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A259FB53B for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 09:01:34 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31540-01 for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 09:01:23 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from developer.pgadmin.org (developer.pgadmin.org [63.246.23.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1219FB527 for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 09:01:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [172.24.32.67] ([62.232.55.118]) (authenticated bits=0) by developer.pgadmin.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l43Bv2bv013499 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 May 2007 11:57:04 GMT Message-ID: <4639CEFC.1010005@postgresql.org> Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 13:01:00 +0100 From: Dave Page User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Momjian CC: Csaba Nagy , Josh Berkus , postgres hackers Subject: Re: Feature freeze progress report References: <200705031151.l43BpIf25652@momjian.us> In-Reply-To: <200705031151.l43BpIf25652@momjian.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200705/175 X-Sequence-Number: 102777 Bruce Momjian wrote: > Csaba Nagy wrote: >>> We have _ample_ evidence that the problem is lack of people able to >>> review patches, and yet there is this discussion to track patches >>> better. It reminds me of someone who has lost their keys in an alley, >>> but is looking for them in the street because the light is better there. >> Bruce, I guess the analogy fails on the fact that you're not looking for >> a key, but for people, and I thought "better light" will attract people >> to find you instead of you to need to search... > > I believe the problem is not that there isn't enough information, but > not enough people able to do the work. Seeking solutions in areas that > aren't helping was the illustration. > OK, so how do we attract more people if not by making the job easier for them? It's not like there aren't plenty of very clever people here - we just need to encourage them to chip in - and making the task less daunting by making *all* the information they need readily available seems a good start too me. And heck, we're database people - storing and retrieving the data to do a job is exactly what we do! Regards, Dave.