Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0872A9FB4EC; Thu, 3 May 2007 14:47:54 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56990-01; Thu, 3 May 2007 14:47:50 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398029FB4DF; Thu, 3 May 2007 14:47:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l43Hlhdu002173; Thu, 3 May 2007 10:47:43 -0700 Message-ID: <463A2044.3030505@commandprompt.com> Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 10:47:48 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070403) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Berkus CC: Bruce Momjian , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze progress report References: <200705031132.l43BWCO23783@momjian.us> <200705031026.44043.josh@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: <200705031026.44043.josh@agliodbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Thu, 03 May 2007 10:47:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200705/9 X-Sequence-Number: 11943 Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, > >> Get rid of gborg and let's talk. > > Touche'. > > Actually, AFAICT, the only active thing left on GBorg is WWW. If we move > that, we can shut it down. Any objections? This should be a different thread *but* to my knowledge there is more than WWW active on Gborg. Or at least there is some data that people still wished moved. Gborg needs to be shutdown in a scheduled manner. I proposed a schedule last year but it was largely overlooked: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-08/msg01167.php My rather bold attempt to reach all people associated with Gborg was not met with positive responses either (granted due to a mistake on my end). http://people.planetpostgresql.org/joshua/index.php?/archives/15-Blacklisting-PostgreSQL.Org,-Spam-and-hordes-of-geeks-Oh-My!.html > >> Why am I having to spend hours in Syndey saying the same thing? Why >> don't you guys go ahead and change things, and when they fail, I will >> still be around. > > You're acting as a majority of one, here, Bruce. The reason why any solution > anyone else tries *will* fail is because you will refuse to participate in > it. That's why people are trying to persuade you instead of just going ahead > and doing it; you have the power to effectively sandbag anything anyone else > does, so that's why nobody wants to put effort into it if you're opposed. That pretty much sums it up. Bruce you can either come to the party with a smile or a grin. It is your party. If you come with a smile everyone will be a lot happier. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/