Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B840B9FBD53 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:47:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30569-07 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:47:20 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from svr4.postgresql.org (svr4.postgresql.org [66.98.251.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84C39FB4D5 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:47:19 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.3 Received: from smtp127.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp127.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.127]) by svr4.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8455AF024 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 15:47:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from CKG-001.local (adsl-074-239-169-041.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net [74.239.169.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chander@otg-nc.com) by relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6915844C823 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46449018.9070202@otg-nc.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:47:36 -0400 From: Chander Ganesan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PostgreSQL www Subject: Event Spam..??? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090202040209070506040409" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.373 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL=-2.277, BAYES_50=0.001, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, HTML_30_40=0.374, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, URIBL_SBL=1.639 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Archive-Number: 200705/44 X-Sequence-Number: 11978 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090202040209070506040409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I just noticed the following events posted: Unknown Date: *2007-09-22 -- 2008-12-04* Location: *Unknown, Unknown, Dominican Republic* Posted by *britneycoros@spears.com* a camp band aagps a slut wife a midsummers night dream quotes a family more... Unknown Date: *2008-03-17 -- 2009-08-29* Location: *Unknown, Unknown, Montserrat* Posted by *britneyypvga@spears.com* a security problem occurred a+ questions free aantal inwoners amsterdam a7 envelope template a job title more... I'm assuming they aren't there intentionally... Also, I notice a lot of events in the training database that seem to be dedicated more to "lead generation" than a reasonable effort to run a training course. For example, 'Certfirst' lists PostgreSQL courses throughout the US in a wide range of different cities. It is my belief that these courses listings are designed not to actually offer a wide range of courses, but to maintain a "main page" list of courses to generate leads. Is this an acceptable practice? I'd hate to see a bunch of vendors adopting this practice to be competitive.... It seems to me that such a practice would not be to the benefit of the community - since it wouldn't help community members find events that were actually running - rather it would put them in touch with companies that could add them to their marketing databases (or they'd get taken with a "bait and switch" - where they sign up for a class in the Bahamas, but end up being redirected to a course in Chicago). Also, how about putting a disclaimer on the training pages indicating that the listing of training courses doesn't constitute the endorsement of a company by the PG community - and that customers should do their own due diligence to ensure they get what they pay for. I think many customers look at a listing of training and consider it to be an endorsement by the community.. Thanks -- Chander Ganesan The Open Technology Group One Copley Parkway, Suite 210 Morrisville, NC 27560 Phone: 877-258-8987/919-463-0999 http://www.otg-nc.com --------------090202040209070506040409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello,

I just noticed the following events posted:

Unknown
Date: 2007-09-22 – 2008-12-04 Location: Unknown, Unknown, Dominican Republic
Posted by britneycoros@spears.com
a camp band aagps a slut wife a midsummers night dream quotes a family more...

Unknown
Date: 2008-03-17 – 2009-08-29 Location: Unknown, Unknown, Montserrat
Posted by britneyypvga@spears.com
a security problem occurred a+ questions free aantal inwoners amsterdam a7 envelope template a job title more...

I'm assuming they aren't there intentionally...

Also, I notice a lot of events in the training database that seem to be dedicated more to "lead generation" than a reasonable effort to run a training course.  For example, 'Certfirst' lists PostgreSQL courses throughout the US in a wide range of different cities.  It is my belief that these courses listings are designed not to actually offer a wide range of courses, but to maintain a "main page" list of courses to generate leads.  Is this an acceptable practice?  I'd hate to see a bunch of vendors adopting this practice to be competitive....

It seems to me that such a practice would not be to the benefit of the community - since it wouldn't help community members find events that were actually running - rather it would put them in touch with companies that could add them to their marketing databases (or they'd get taken with a "bait and switch" - where they sign up for a class in the Bahamas, but end up being redirected to a course in Chicago).

Also, how about putting a disclaimer on the training pages indicating that the listing of training courses doesn't constitute the endorsement of a company by the PG community - and that customers should do their own due diligence to ensure they get what they pay for.  I think many customers look at a listing of training and consider it to be an endorsement by the community..

Thanks
-- 
Chander Ganesan
The Open Technology Group
One Copley Parkway, Suite 210
Morrisville, NC  27560
Phone: 877-258-8987/919-463-0999
http://www.otg-nc.com
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