Received: from localhost (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5F79FB6E6 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:54:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67147-10 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:54:53 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6469FB665 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:54:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l58FsqVr004343; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:54:52 -0700 Message-ID: <46697C05.5080408@commandprompt.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:55:49 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070403) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Sullivan CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: various spam References: <20070608143339.GC17144@phlogiston.dyndns.org> <4669794C.6030307@commandprompt.com> <20070608155036.GN17144@phlogiston.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20070608155036.GN17144@phlogiston.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200706/23 X-Sequence-Number: 12062 Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 08:44:12AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> Why not block it before it ever hits the lists? > > I guess the problem is that it's not exactly spam, so you'd need an > AI engine to figure out what it was and block it. Is there not some standard keywords within the post that we can block? Or even a specific phrase? Or block the email addresses? Joshua D. Drake > > It actually is, as near as I can tell, a bunch of people who are > convinced that emm-eye-five are out to get them. The reason Usenet > became worthless is not just that October never came, but that the > metal hospitals all got hooked up to it. Every nutbar freak in the > world thinks it's their holy duty to cross post to all of creation. > > To add insult to injury, those who are opposed to this sort of > nonsense forge posts from the above people and cross-post _those_ all > over hell and creation. This was a favourite tactic some years ago > by self-appointed guardians of Usenet. The idea was that if you > pissed off the cabal enough, they'd take action of some unspecified > type which would solve the problem in a way that nobody was ever able > to quite explain. It was never anything better than vigilantism, but > now it's just vandalism. > > Anyway, I guess we'll just keep moderating and hope the failure to > get past moderation will cause the paranoid nutbars and their > antagonists to go somewhere else. Some days I hate the Internet :) > > A > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/