Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D95E9FA274 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:12:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51055-06 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:12:01 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from developer.pgadmin.org (developer.pgadmin.org [63.246.23.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4761E9FB9EA for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:11:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from snake.local ([62.232.55.118]) (authenticated bits=0) by developer.pgadmin.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l78GBRcO022743 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Aug 2007 17:11:29 +0100 Message-ID: <46B9EB2B.4030607@postgresql.org> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:11:23 +0100 From: Dave Page User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joshua D. Drake" CC: Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org, Lukas Kahwe Smith Subject: Re: EnterpriseDB Postgres References: <200708081736.26564.peter_e@gmx.net> <46B9E4F8.1090005@postgresql.org> <46B9E964.9050508@commandprompt.com> In-Reply-To: <46B9E964.9050508@commandprompt.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: url=http://www.pgadmin.org/pgp/davepage.pgp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/130 X-Sequence-Number: 11700 Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Dave Page wrote: >> Peter Eisentraut wrote: >>> Am Mittwoch, 8. August 2007 17:14 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: >>> Certainly not the first, >> Barring pgInstaller, it's the first bundled distribution I recall seeing >> available at no cost. > > Mammoth PostgreSQL was doing this quite some time ago. We found that it > was better to insure support of the surrounding projects so that all the > Pg packages could make it upstream. You were including server, admin tools and drivers in a point 'n' click distro-independent installer? I thought Mammoth was a rebranded server (now community standard). > That is why we have so many packges in FC (for example now). Go Devrim! Absolutely - and we hope that will continue, just as I will be continuing with pgInstaller. The EDB Postgres distros are aimed squarely at new users and those that want a quick and easy install - we don't want them to have to understand all the contrib module options in pgInstaller, or figure out the right combinations of RPMs (not forgetting the libpq-compat one!), and then install and configure a webserver, find some admin tools, work out where the driver websites are etc. We want these users to just download, run and get hooked. Later, when they decide to deploy, thats when they might choose to switch to the RPM distros or pgInstaller, so they can tailor their production systems to their precise needs. Regards, Dave