Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32EF9FB703 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:47:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13966-04-2 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:47:40 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A634F9FC0C9 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:47:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l78GleJd007428; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:47:41 -0700 Message-ID: <46B9F42A.3020101@commandprompt.com> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:49:46 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Rodner CC: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: EnterpriseDB Postgres References: <200708081736.26564.peter_e@gmx.net> <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518CA@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> <46B9F148.80002@commandprompt.com> <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518EF@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> In-Reply-To: <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518EF@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/3892/Wed Aug 8 03:05:19 2007 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:47:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/146 X-Sequence-Number: 11716 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Derek Rodner wrote: > Josh, > > We are trying to make it easy for the newbies and that is what this new > distribution and site are designed for!!!!! > > As for the comment about the Fortune 1000? They ALL RUN MySQL > somewhere. We know. We have talked to them. They actually recognize > that it is not enterprise-class, etc. but, it was free and easy to use. They don't run it where they would be running Oracle. They do run PostgreSQL in those spots. Oh and as a sticking point, I said Fortune 5000 ;) Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > > > Derek M. Rodner > Director, Product Strategy > EnterpriseDB Corporation > 732.331.1333 office > 484.252.1943 cell > www.enterprisedb.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:jd@commandprompt.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:37 AM > To: Derek Rodner > Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] EnterpriseDB Postgres > >> thrive on that. My college basketball team is always the underdog. >> EnterpriseDB is the underdog to Oracle. Postgres is the underdog to >> MySQL. I am starting to get sick of that and want Postgres to stop >> being the underdog. We know we are better than MySQL. Most of the > > I was with you, until right here. I think you have vastly misestimated > the market. I will concur that PostgreSQL is the underdog to MySQL in > one very specific sense: > > The ignorant and the code monkey. > > The knowledgable (including many of the fortune 5000) won't touch MySQL > because it is broke, where PostgreSQL isn't. > > Now all that being said, there is zero argument that if you can get all > the people running Ubuntu, wanting to run PostgreSQL that our community > will grow. However I wonder, seriously how much of our community would > be willing to deal with that level of newness. > > A good portion of our community are DBMS snobs. They have no basis in > reality and are more interested in what is "right" versus what actually > "works". > > Is that bad? I don't know, sometimes, sometimes not. > > Sincerely, > > Joshua D. Drake - -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGufQqATb/zqfZUUQRAjL3AJ9/VpXnoUXEcyaBMV5oSpdvtPXaXACfeQsl 5aSyVT6h270jXWzGCS5qgJE= =cCjl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----