Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F5C9FBB42 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 14:18:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22481-03 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 14:18:51 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from floppy.pyrenet.fr (news.pyrenet.fr [194.116.145.2]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3AA9FBB3D for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 14:18:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: by floppy.pyrenet.fr (Postfix, from userid 106) id 337D931418; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:18:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lukas Kahwe Smith X-Newsgroups: pgsql.advocacy Subject: Re: EnterpriseDB Postgres Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:18:40 +0200 Organization: Hub.Org Networking Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <46B9FAF0.5060909@pooteeweet.org> References: <200708081736.26564.peter_e@gmx.net> <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518CA@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> <200708081836.44990.peter_e@gmx.net> <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518EC@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.hub.org To: Derek Rodner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) In-Reply-To: <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518EC@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/153 X-Sequence-Number: 11723 Derek Rodner wrote: > I am not saying we did not tell the truth and we absolutely did. This is the first distribution for Postgres that is packaged in this fashion with a graphical installer and the like. The title of that press release is accurate. Or in other words this is the first distribution labeled "EnterpriseDB Postgres". If you put enough and's nto your explanation it will eventually be first. Though these and's were not in your press release. I do think this language harms PostgreSQL because it makes it sound like previously it was only available in unprofessional packaging, which implies this PostgreSQL thing just for the first time made it out of the world of "oh this is fun to hack on" stage and anyone doing anything with a previous PostgreSQL distro was either toying or on the absolute bleeding edge (or over the edge). I find this release especially disturbing since we just went over this a few weeks ago. But I guess its time to stop trying to fix this behavior, its more a question of just accepting it. While its mighty annoying, I guess it does not offset the good things EDB contributes. So it goes. regards, Lukas