Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518889FB8AA for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:28:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 52985-04 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:28:25 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from developer.pgadmin.org (developer.pgadmin.org [63.246.23.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF799FB617 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:28:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from snake.local ([89.240.63.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by developer.pgadmin.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l78ISRYp024741 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:28:29 +0100 Message-ID: <46BA0B46.2030603@postgresql.org> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:28:22 +0100 From: Dave Page User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua_Kramer CC: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: EnterpriseDB Postgres References: <200708081736.26564.peter_e@gmx.net> <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518CA@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> <200708081836.44990.peter_e@gmx.net> <51494DB187D98F4C88DBEBF1F5F6D423022518EC@edb06.mail01.enterprisedb.com> <46B9FAF0.5060909@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: url=http://www.pgadmin.org/pgp/davepage.pgp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/161 X-Sequence-Number: 11731 Joshua_Kramer wrote: > >> I do think this language harms PostgreSQL because it makes it sound >> like previously it was only available in unprofessional packaging, >> which implies > > Erg, I have a dumb question. What does this package provide over and > above the standard PG .msi's available for Windows? Is it merely a > consistency so that Linux newbies can get an easy Postgres package too? > > I'm just wondering. I would beleive that those inclined to develop > using MySQL would also be inclined to develop under Windows - I didn't > find it difficult at all to install PG 8.2.4 or pgAdminIII on my C5 > boxes... As a disclaimer, I build both the PG msi's and I produced the one thats available from postgres.enterprisedb.com (though I'm handing the maintenance of that over to another team). The EDB installer has a number of differences. For the people here, they will largely be uninteresting (bar 2 or 3, which will likely be in PG 8.3) - - Is it vastly simplified. For example, a number of the installer steps are gone, including the grid of checkboxes for contrib modules. The feature selection tree has also been reduced to 3 core elements. - It has a few less pieces of bundled software - in particular, no pl/java, and no oledb. - It will (in the next version) include Apache, PHP and phpPgAdmin as an option. - It includes pgAdmin 1.8 beta 2(.5), and the debugger plugin to allow pl/pgsql debugging. - It is Vista compatible. - It includes a simple demo database. - pgAgent is pre-installed (but needs a pgpass.conf file which we don't silently create). There's probably something else I forgot, but that's about it. Regards, Dave.