Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825A39FA1D3 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:35:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35839-01 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:35:13 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from outmail129167.authsmtp.com (outmail129167.authsmtp.com [62.13.129.167]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392E79F98AA for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:35:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from outmail128179.authsmtp.co.uk (outmail128179.authsmtp.co.uk [62.13.128.179]) by punt3.authsmtp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Kp) with ESMTP id l91IZ6SM064150; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:35:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from josh-berkus-computer-2.local (adsl-63-195-55-98.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.55.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Kp) with ESMTP id l91IZ4IS026551; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:35:05 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <47013DD4.9090209@agliodbs.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:35:00 -0700 From: Josh Berkus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Ongoing issues with the downloads page References: <46FE3CA0.5020707@agliodbs.com> <46FE4DF3.9070903@kaltenbrunner.cc> In-Reply-To: <46FE4DF3.9070903@kaltenbrunner.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Quench: 081919f5-704d-11dc-b86a-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZgscClZXSx8a IioLCC5HRQ8+YBZL BAkGMA9GIUINWEQL c1ACdx10O0FbHwkB BHYKUl5XVVdxXy1z aBRQZABDZ09QVg11 Uk1LR01SWllhAGVr Amd9Uht0cgBHNnxz YkYsXnhaVUVzI0Ng RU5QQXAHZDMzdTIX VhFFdwNVcQtPKhxC bQMuGhFYa3VsJi0j Bgt2IC8uCH14LitS QwcCZVMJWlsGBXYj RgwCVSkvEAUJQDo1 KxsvJkVUBE8ePy0A X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633136333939.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:752/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.388 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL=-0.696, BAYES_50=0.001, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200710/2 X-Sequence-Number: 12589 Stefan, > under "commercial software"(ie.: > http://www.postgresql.org/download/commercial) but I guess you were > actually taking about the small listing on the very end of the > "Downloads" main page (http://www.postgresql.org/download/) - right ? Correct, since that's where other OS platforms are listed. If RH & EDB are there, Solaris ought to be there. >> 2) Someone added "TrafficReports" under a new category "Reporting". This >> is unreasonable favoritism towards a single reporting project. Either we >> need to list at least 6 of the OSS & commercial reporting tools which >> support PostgreSQL, or delete the category alltogther (I support the >> latter). > > not so sure about that category either but are there more reporting > tools out there that are worth mentioning ? Only a few dozen. JasperReports, OpenRPT, Pentaho, BusinessObjects, Microstrategy, BIRT, etc, etc. Overall, I think adding stuff to this page (and frankly, elsewhere on the web site) needs to be discussed on list (or at least announced) and not just arbitrarily added. When we put one product in a category on the page and not others it gives the appearance of favoritism. Also, by adding something like a reporting category with only one entry in it, we give the impression that it's the *only* reporting tool which works with PostgreSQL. For reporting tools specifically, it should be removed from the downloads page and added to the Tools page, or get its own Reporting page. There are too many reporting tools which work with PostgreSQL to have it on the main downloads page. I also question moving the /commercial stuff to a permanent page rather than techdocs. This list of compatible tools is *far* to volatile to depend on CVS access to update it. Please move it back to Techdocs. --Josh