Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038229F95EB for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:39:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 47755-03 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:39:21 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from svr2.hagander.net (svr2.hagander.net [88.198.128.226]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89639F9E36 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:39:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from dynamic.hagander.net ([127.0.0.1]) (encrypted and authenticated) by svr2.hagander.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA77DCC8B6; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:39:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <470A956E.5080803@hagander.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:39:10 +0200 From: Magnus Hagander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Berkus CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Approval process for news/events/training is broken References: <470A72CD.4050304@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: <470A72CD.4050304@agliodbs.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200710/55 X-Sequence-Number: 12642 Josh Berkus wrote: > WWW folks, > > I've just noticed again today that the way we approve news, events, and > training for the front page is seriously broken. Currently, if only > *one* person with approval rights thinks that something is OK, it gets > approved immediately. I think that was me this time (I honestly don't recall 100%, but it's quite possible). Sorry about that. > This means that screw-ups like this morning happen repeatedly. Namely, > EDB posted a link-only announcement, which we've discussed before as not > being acceptable for PostgreSQL. I pinged Robert and asked him not to > approve it, and phoned EDB's PR agent, and she was giving me new content > ... when someone else decided to approve it. Why on earth didn't you email either -www or -slaves about it? It should be pretty darn obvious that talking to Robert only means talking to Robert, and not talking to the other people, no? > We need the news/events system to change in two ways: > > 1) There needs to be a way for admins to flag an item as "don't approve, > there's a problem" so that if one person knows of a reason to hold, > someone coming online later won't approve due to being clueless. Ok. That should be fairly easy. How about a text field with "admins comment", so you can tell people *why*, what's being done, and who's doing it? > 2) approvers should wait at least a couple of hours before approving > things. As has previously been stated, it had waited for days. > 3) We need a written policy of what is acceptable for > news/events/training and what isn't. > > I can do (3) but (1) and (2) are up to the other "slaves". *please* do. I've been asking for this since the first day I started doing news approvals. While at it, please make one for events as well, as they're very similar. We really should have one for doc comments, quotes etc as well, but those two are the most important ones. I'll be quite happy to stay away from approving news and/or events until such a document exists. I would suggest others do as well. //Magnus