Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A3B9F9925 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:46:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45350-05 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:45:56 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (sca-es-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.43.133]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85699F95B0 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:45:59 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l9FMjwPk021444 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JPZ00A014CEC100@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from josh@agliodbs.com) for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from josh-berkus-computer-2.local ([192.18.37.228]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JPZ007OG5WIM2H0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:45:40 -0700 From: Josh Berkus Subject: Re: Approval process for news/events/training is broken In-reply-to: <200710152220.l9FMKad02511@momjian.us> To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Message-id: <4713ED94.2060505@agliodbs.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <200710152220.l9FMKad02511@momjian.us> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200710/97 X-Sequence-Number: 12684 Folks, >>> The real question is, "is it proprietary". If it is even partially >>> closed source then it really doesn't belong in the "postgresql family >>> product" unless we also include MPP and Replicator. >> You know what I mean :-). And all of EDB-Postgres is open source, >> including the funky little MySQL migrator tool in the latest builds. > > Uh, doesn't the installer use a commercial product that isn't open > source? Does requiring non-open source tools to build something make it > non-open source? Postgres requires a C compiler that can be open or > closed source so I don't know if that helps clarify things. I don't think any of this is relevant for the News page. The question is, will the person sending me the press release be a paid PR person, or an OSS developer? We treat the two differently because they're going to send us different sorts of news at different intervals. For example, I would treat EDB-Postgres as "commercial" because they send us formal press releases every 3 weeks, which often need significant re-writing to target our developers. On the other hand, if we get anything from OpenRPT it's just a release announcement, maybe once a year, so we can treat them like an "PostgreSQL Family" OSS project. So it's not commercial vs. open source *product*, it's commercial vs. open source *news*. --Josh Berkus