Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD829FA26C for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:43:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22035-02-5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:43:29 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from svr2.hagander.net (svr2.hagander.net [88.198.128.226]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A969FC505 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:35:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from dynamic.hagander.net ([127.0.0.1]) (encrypted and authenticated) by svr2.hagander.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740B4DCCA24; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:35:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472A38A3.80006@hagander.net> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:35:47 +0100 From: Magnus Hagander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Sullivan CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: what is up with the PG mailing lists? References: <25716.1193887595@sss.pgh.pa.us> <26669.1193891360@sss.pgh.pa.us> <47299585.7030402@hagander.net> <47299957.5020605@postgresql.org> <2968.1193919208@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20071101080959.49f3087b@scratch> <20071101152333.GM27676@crankycanuck.ca> <4729F105.30704@hagander.net> <20071101170031.GQ27676@crankycanuck.ca> In-Reply-To: <20071101170031.GQ27676@crankycanuck.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/42 X-Sequence-Number: 12820 Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 04:30:13PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> getting. Sure, SMTP should have latency. But a modern SMTP system >> shouldn't take hours to deliver an email. > > This isn't automatically true, and is explicitly contradicted by the > relevant RFCs. I think it shouldn't be the _habit_ on such systems, > but AFAICT it isn't. AFAICT, it is. And remember that we're talking about delivery *between two internal relay machines*. Not delivery to the end user. //Magnus