Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8B79FA277 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 03:47:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88899-04 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 03:47:53 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from cronos.madness.at (madness.at [217.196.146.217]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512AD9FA271 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 03:47:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mastermind.kaltenbrunner.cc ([83.215.233.60]) by cronos.madness.at with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InqJW-0000Tw-0w; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:47:36 +0100 Message-ID: <472AC802.70804@kaltenbrunner.cc> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:47:30 +0100 From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" CC: Andrew Sullivan , "Joshua D. Drake" , Magnus Hagander , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: what is up with the PG mailing lists? References: <47299957.5020605@postgresql.org> <2968.1193919208@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20071101080959.49f3087b@scratch> <20071101152333.GM27676@crankycanuck.ca> <4729F105.30704@hagander.net> <1127E6493CBA8A29F343C4D7@ganymede.hub.org> <4729F7D2.6050608@hagander.net> <20071101092806.3b1fa452@scratch> <20071101173632.GV27676@crankycanuck.ca> <2054E686446A7E0E5CECED8F@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <2054E686446A7E0E5CECED8F@ganymede.hub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/56 X-Sequence-Number: 12834 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > --On Thursday, November 01, 2007 13:36:32 -0400 Andrew Sullivan > wrote: > >>> "Host or domain name not found" >> This should just bounce, no? > > The full message looks like: > > Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=sigma.fr type=MX: > Host not found, try again > > so it looks like postfix is treating it as a soft failure, vs hard ... a query for the MX of that domain results in SERVFAIL which MTAs usually treat like a temporary and not a permanent error one. Stefan