Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724019F9474 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:53:07 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69209-04 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:53:02 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from smtp148.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp148.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.148]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800609F9475 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:53:02 -0400 (AST) Received: from relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DA4ECC31E; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: chander-AT-otg-nc.com) with ESMTP id 859ECC26F; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:53:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <472E06FC.5080302@otg-nc.com> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:53:00 -0500 From: Chander Ganesan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joshua D. Drake" CC: Dave Page , "Marc G. Fournier" , Kevin Hunter , Postgres WWW List , Peter Eisentraut Subject: Re: Training events policy ... first test case References: <200711031703310000@114527600> <20071103142105.2d29bc1b@scratch> <472D02A3.1070404@postgresql.org> <20071103205146.63a6997c@scratch> <472D505C.8010009@earlham.edu> <30F7311191EA4127FE35229B@ganymede.hub.org> <472D5E5F.8070703@otg-nc.com> <9599AD77F626EA5EFDBE4859@ganymede.hub.org> <472DD12F.5060805@otg-nc.com> <472DE3C2.9030703@postgresql.org> <472DEB0B.2060207@otg-nc.com> <20071104082524.4ae7524c@scratch> <472DF8D8.1000902@otg-nc.com> <20071104093921.1764ce36@scratch> In-Reply-To: <20071104093921.1764ce36@scratch> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000604090002070402010806" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/108 X-Sequence-Number: 12886 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000604090002070402010806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joshua D. Drake wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:52:40 -0500 > Chander Ganesan wrote: > > >> Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> >>> I seriously doubt that postgresql training growth is being stymied >>> by one obscure link among dozens on a website front page. >>> >>> >> I think it's stymied by 30+ events in 5+ cities listed on the >> training page by one or more companies that has plans to run maybe 1 >> of those courses, if any. Check out the training event list... >> > > Of the first 14 training events, 3 are from unknowns (including > certfirst). > > Are we making more out of this than we should be? > > However I do see a flood of entries later from Certfirst. Not to be an > ass, but this problem goes away for the forseeable future if we just > ban Certfirst from posting training events. There is no way they are > running all those classes. > > /me puts FG hat on. > > Perhaps as 50.00 donation should be required for each training listing. > Me, puts of community supporter hat....we donate either way ;-) However, I think that $50 isn't much of a deterrent. I think if you want it to be a deterrent to event spam, put that number a bit higher. That was my idea with the "first X are free for 1 calendar year, the rest are $1k apiece" or something like that. Chander > Joshua D. Drake > > - -- > > === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === > Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 > PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ > UNIQUE NOT NULL > Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate > PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFHLgPJATb/zqfZUUQRArxjAJ4h3WzCdRJOMhThqIJnKhGhRtAGFACdEAWu > 2ctc/73Se6oroaq6pkPm9HY= > =uuYZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > -- Chander Ganesan Open Technology Group, Inc. One Copley Parkway, Suite 210 Morrisville, NC 27560 Phone: 877-258-8987/919-463-0999 http://www.otg-nc.com --------------000604090002070402010806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joshua D. Drake wrote: 
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:52:40 -0500
Chander Ganesan <chander@otg-nc.com> wrote:

  
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
    
I seriously doubt that postgresql training growth is being stymied
by one obscure link among dozens on a website front page.
  
      
I think it's stymied by 30+ events in 5+ cities listed on the
training page by one or more companies that has plans to run maybe 1
of those courses, if any.  Check out the training event list... 
    

Of the first 14 training events, 3 are from unknowns (including
certfirst).

Are we making more out of this than we should be?

However I do see a flood of entries later from Certfirst. Not to be an
ass, but this problem goes away for the forseeable future if we just
ban Certfirst from posting training events. There is no way they are
running all those classes.
  
/me puts FG hat on.

Perhaps as 50.00 donation should be required for each training listing.
Me, puts of community supporter hat....we donate either way ;-)  However, I think that $50 isn't much of a deterrent.  I think if you want it to be a deterrent to event spam, put that number a bit higher.   That was my idea with the "first X are free for 1 calendar year, the rest are $1k apiece" or something like that.

Chander
Joshua D. Drake

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