Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE1F64FCCF for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:51:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76158-05 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:51:06 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from smtp208.sat.emailsrvr.com (smtp208.sat.emailsrvr.com [66.216.121.208]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9DD64FCBF for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:51:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from relay10.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay10.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8AF6B5B2774; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay10.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: chander-AT-otg-nc.com) with ESMTP id 6A2863B1C96; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48D240AF.8050204@otg-nc.com> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:51:11 -0400 From: Chander Ganesan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Page CC: Tom Lane , Andrew Sullivan , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Download links References: <937d27e10808110203l790a9c3eud97fdde42f70b92f@mail.gmail.com> <48BC5B03.2060400@otg-nc.com> <937d27e10809011456i3b74004ejf02e8adb26ec8338@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0F6E.1060401@otg-nc.com> <20080915150524.GG5607@commandprompt.com> <48D17A38.1000208@otg-nc.com> <29492.1221689108@sss.pgh.pa.us> <48D181EC.3040204@otg-nc.com> <937d27e10809180039x710a1229ja28c81cb9b199db3@mail.gmail.com> <48D23B7E.5080104@otg-nc.com> <937d27e10809180442r75e34951uc091a28135c9e465@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <937d27e10809180442r75e34951uc091a28135c9e465@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=none X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200809/117 X-Sequence-Number: 15826 Dave Page wrote: > The reason why they are ordered as they are is explained in more > detail in a separate thread - but essentially it's because the people > that need most help figuring out what they need to download are the > ones that most benefit from one-click packages. Those that don't need > the help, are also those that are more able to figure out what > combination of RPMs/DEBs/Ports/whatever they need, and know that that > type of package is what they want. > It's unfortunate that I only get to check my archive for this list occasionally, otherwise I likely would have chimed in then. I understand that it might be too late to make such changes... I'm just wondering if that makes things more difficult for newer users in the long term, who might be able to actually get upgrades to their DB without having to go through a complex process (I'm not sure how the one-clicks are upgraded, but I assume they cannot just do the package manager type upgrade). This probably won't be a real "issue" until some kind of PostgreSQL DoS, Worm, or other attack emerges, where they find themselves without a clean upgrade method (unless they learn more PG stuff...). Out of curiosity, do the one-click installers also have one-click uninstallers? That would be my other concern... -- Chander Ganesan Open Technology Group, Inc. One Copley Parkway, Suite 210 Morrisville, NC 27560 919-463-0999/877-258-8987 http://www.otg-nc.com