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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:51:38 +0100
From: Guillaume Smet <guillaume_ml@smet.org>
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To: Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>, "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>,
	Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>,
	David Blewett <david@dawninglight.net>,
	"pgsql-www@postgresql.org" <pgsql-www@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: List Message Footer
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	<alpine.GSO.2.01.0903172316420.506@westnet.com>
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Greg Smith a écrit :
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> 
>> I think the footer is full enough and I just don't see enough demand
>> for URL lookups to warrant it.
> 
> You could make an argument that anything that makes the whole mailing
> list/Commitfest interface easier is worthwhile to implement even if
> there isn't much demand outside of that context.

Well, I think there is. On the IRC channel, I often reference emails
from the archives (and I'm not the only one, of course) and it's really
a pain currently to dig into my GMail box, find the right email then
search in the archives (the search by message id thing added by Alvaro
recently is a nice thing but it's still far too many clicks). And as
Greg mentioned it, it's exactly the same problem for mailing list
archives out there (they are far better referenced than our archives are).

As for developing GreaseMonkey scripts, I don't see the point of
developing one script per website (and one extension per MUA). Moreover,
GreaseMonkey doesn't invent information, it just manipulates DOM. I may
be wrong but I didn't find the message id in GMail DOM (that said, it
might be here, I didn't spend too much time on it).

The archives are really the heart of PostgreSQL development and having
the URL of a message at the bottom of it would be a time saving
enhancement. I personnaly prefer spending my time answering questions
than digging into the archives for the one email in a thread I wanted to
point out.

I'm not sure it's a good idea for every list but at least on -hackers
and -performance (which are the lists cited the most), it could save
quite a lot of time to more people than you think. Note that on these
very lists, there are really few people not cutting out the footer when
answering.

-- 
Guillaume