Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57D85ACA4F for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 00:05:17 -0400 (AST) Received: from host-215.commandprompt.net ([207.173.203.215] helo=lists.commandprompt.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RRyeZ-00040l-WE for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 04:05:17 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (spinlock.commandprompt.com.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.215]) by lists.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EA174348D90; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip174-68-69-151.sd.sd.cox.net ([174.68.69.151] helo=[192.168.1.6]) by assp.commandprompt.com with ESMTP (2.1.1); 19 Nov 2011 20:05:01 -0800 Message-ID: <4EC87C6C.4000203@commandprompt.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:05:00 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Riggs CC: Thom Brown , w^3 Subject: Re: PostgreSQL website redesign References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Assp-Version: 2.1.1(11278) on assp.commandprompt.com X-Assp-ID: assp.commandprompt.com m1-61901-03968 X-Assp-Envelope-From: jd@commandprompt.com X-Assp-Intended-For: simon@2ndQuadrant.com X-Assp-Original-Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] PostgreSQL website redesign X-Archive-Number: 201111/25 X-Sequence-Number: 20301 On 11/19/2011 09:12 AM, Simon Riggs wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Thom Brown wrote: > >> As you will no doubt be aware, the PostgreSQL website is overdue for a >> fresh lick of paint, so we are planning to give it a new look in the >> near future. > It's not clear to me that redesigning the website will give us > anything at all, but it will definitely drain time and focus away from > things like writing patches or working out clear and workable designs > for new features. It will drain time only from those who chose to contribute in a manner they feel useful. > > The existing design works just fine in every way, so "we" are not > unhappy. In fact the existing site is fairly well tuned with many > people's feedback and pixel level arguments now done and dusted. Well actually the existing design does not work just fine in every way. It is not user friendly, nor is it simple, nor is it a comprehensive resource for information (the wiki having become that destination). > > We do need some marketing, but redesigning websites without purpose is > not marketing. No, that is the job of 2ndQuadrant, CMD, PgExperts, EnterpriseDB, VMware etc... Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake