Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6CEC83CB3 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:47:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from cronos.madness.at ([2a02:16a8:dc41::10]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SoeXT-00019C-1q for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:47:56 +0000 Received: from mastermind.kaltenbrunner.cc ([2001:470:7a2d::22]) by cronos.madness.at with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SoeWy-0004rA-Vt; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:47:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFC6AA0.1060903@kaltenbrunner.cc> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:47:12 +0200 From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111120 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Berkus CC: Peter Geoghegan , Tom Lane , Alvaro Herrera , Magnus Hagander , w^3 Subject: Re: 9.2beta web issues References: <28687.1341523141@sss.pgh.pa.us> <29222.1341524488@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1341525030-sup-6100@alvh.no-ip.org> <2405.1341528250@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4FF72D24.1010206@kaltenbrunner.cc> <4FFB67BD.90908@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: <4FFB67BD.90908@agliodbs.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201207/78 X-Sequence-Number: 20827 On 07/10/2012 01:22 AM, Josh Berkus wrote: > >>> I think we should completely drop all references to the google docs >>> thingy and the -testers list there and redirect people simply to -bugs >>> and/or hackers. > > Oh, dammit. I thought I took the google thing out when we went beta, > but apparently I didn't save my changes. > > People do use -testers. While -bugs/-hackers is superior for > experienced testers, submitting stuff to those lists can be a bit > intimidating. hmm I'm still wondering if it is a good thing, the description of the list on the archives is "For active testers of PostgreSQL Alphas and Betas to report test results." or if you ask mj2: "The pgsql-testers mailing list is for users committed to helping with Alpha and Beta testing of new versions of PostgreSQL. It is also use for automated processing of testing results. " apart from the typo in the second one(what automated processing btw - is that google docs?) I basically parse both version as "this is the official way to report bugs in beta/alpha", I'm not sure this is actually understood by every community member and a sensible split of traffic between -bugs and hackers... Stefan