X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EC1D1B486; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 06:26:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21386-05; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 06:26:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3184FD1BAAD; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 06:26:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mailgate2.vale-housing.co.uk ([80.176.1.147] helo=vale-housing.co.uk) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BCxhg-000GEv-0V; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:26:08 +0100 Received: from tartanic.demon.co.uk ([80.177.99.193]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dpage) by ssl.vale-housing.co.uk with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:26:08 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <50036.80.177.99.193.1081761968.squirrel@ssl.vale-housing.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:26:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: [webmaster] online demonstration against EU Software Patents From: "Dave Page" To: In-Reply-To: <200404112008.34049.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> References: <03AF4E498C591348A42FC93DEA9661B889FA35@mail.vale-housing.co.uk> <200404111704.25575.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> <20040411180348.H76255@ganymede.hub.org> <200404112008.34049.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: , , , X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200404/73 X-Sequence-Number: 4177 It's rumoured that Robert Treat once said: > > I think the deal is that those in Europe aren't currently subject to > software patent litigation even if it violates US law. Further, some > of the interpretations of the laws being proposed in Europe are fairly > draconian, and could put more cautious open source distributors "out > of business" so to speak. check out > http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html for some informational > links. Yes, that's about right - in fact the link at the bottom of that page leads to the proper Knoppix homepage which mentions even simple common features like progress bars and scrollable windows being under threat. The problem isn't even whether on not a project actually infringes a patent anyway though - just checking whether on not it does can cost a huge amount of money, so an unscrupulous corporate could put a project out of business with an infringement claim that warrants further investigation, whether or not the claim is valid. As for the US issue - my understanding is that in the US you can only patent complex software processes and concepts, whereas in the EU you will be able to patent simple 'things' such as UI controls. Regards, Dave