X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99B8D1BB89; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:37:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42889-02; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:37:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7086D1BA93; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:37:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ool-4352919e.dyn.optonline.net ([67.82.145.158] helo=matth.zeut.net) by outbound.mailhop.org with asmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BH1nZ-000EoN-Fp; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:37:01 -0400 Received: from 192.154.91.225 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dbmail2user); by matth.zeut.net with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50773.192.154.91.225.1082727452.squirrel@192.154.91.225> In-Reply-To: References: <200404230409.i3N49jC02890@candle.pha.pa.us> <58232.192.154.91.225.1082725121.squirrel@192.154.91.225> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL? From: "Matthew T. O'Connor" To: "Fabien COELHO" Cc: "Matthew T. O'Connor" , "PostgreSQL-development" , "PostgreSQL advocacy" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS.org X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.org X-MHO-User: Zeut X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME, RCVD_IN_NJABL, RCVD_IN_SORBS X-Spam-Level: * X-Archive-Number: 200404/219 X-Sequence-Number: 4191 >> My goal is to have pg_autovacuum integrated into the backend for 7.5. > > I know about that, and that would be a good thing. I hope so! >> I don't know if it will default to being turned on or off, I'm sure that >> will be a discussion, but if it is defaulted to on, then this whole >> problem of having to train newbies about vacuum should just go away. > > Yes. I really thing that it should be on by default, because those who > will need it more than others are those who will not know about tuning > configuration parameters. As I understand the requirements from > pg_autovacuum, it means that some statistics will have to be on by default > as well. I think it's premature to have this conversation. I need to get something done / working before we dicuss optimal configuration. That said, I also agree that if it's good enough, it should be on by default. > Good luck;-) Thanks, I'll need it.... Matthew ps: I'm hoping to have time to work on this starting in May. I haven't really done any development on pg_autovacuum beyond bug fixing what is already in CVS, so.... If someone out there wants to work on it, don't wait for me, I won't be offended :-) I just want to see it up and running.