Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C52634092 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:46:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02767-01 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:46:20 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from svr2.hagander.net (svr2.hagander.net [88.198.128.226]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CF6634013 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:46:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from dynamic.hagander.net ([127.0.0.1]) (encrypted and authenticated) by svr2.hagander.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A220DCD2B0; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:46:17 +0200 (CEST) References: <937d27e10904160107t6406b64cxddec956619c3374@mail.gmail.com> <16454.1239890476@sss.pgh.pa.us> <937d27e10904160705y3f59662r3161d9bcd0add30b@mail.gmail.com> <17154.1239892401@sss.pgh.pa.us> Message-Id: <50A2A5D1-E994-4C31-9C69-BDD068CA5E30@hagander.net> From: Magnus Hagander To: Tom Lane In-Reply-To: <17154.1239892401@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5G77) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5G77) Subject: Re: Archives policy Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:46:09 +0200 Cc: Dave Page , PostgreSQL www X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=none X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200904/71 X-Sequence-Number: 16938 On 16 apr 2009, at 16.33, Tom Lane wrote: > Dave Page writes: >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >>> I would be happy with a policy that says >>> "The archives are graven on stone tablets. Don't bother asking." >>> but if we are willing to editorialize in extreme cases then maybe >>> the second part needs to be modified. > >> I don't think we can refuse if there is anything illegal, defamatory, >> extremist, pornographic etc. > > Why not? As you point out, there are many copies of our archives, > so it'd be pretty useless to edit one. Also, illegal according to > whose law, or pornographic in whose eyes? I think saying we'll do > that is just inviting tin-hat censorship attempts. Illegal in the united states ATM because that's where the server is. We have no choice there. As for pornographic, extremist or whatever - that's already covered by illegal in the cases where we should care. It's still pointless due to mirrors etc, but ifnit illegal we have no choice. /Magnus