Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQDZ-0005La-2z for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:03:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQDX-0004wB-Ht for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:03:19 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([98.129.198.125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQDV-0004vQ-HF for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:03:17 +0000 Received: from delta01.pnet.xcon.it ([62.48.53.16]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQDS-0007N6-2R for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:03:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by delta01.pnet.xcon.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D301033CC97; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:03:11 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at delta01.pnet.xcon.it Received: from delta01.pnet.xcon.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delta01.pnet.xcon.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Z8xPCGTjxg9D; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:03:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from Gabriele.local (host44-122-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [79.53.122.44]) (Authenticated sender: gabriele.bartolini@devise.it) by delta01.pnet.xcon.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 006E91033CC51; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:03:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50EF3A9E.2030504@2ndQuadrant.it> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:03:10 +0100 From: Gabriele Bartolini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: damien clochard CC: Magnus Hagander , Josh Berkus , PostgreSQL WWW Subject: Re: Training approval policy on pg.org References: <50EEA591.3030905@dalibo.info> <50EEFA1C.4030508@commandprompt.com> <50EEFE57.2010505@agliodbs.com> <50EF26BD.60209@dalibo.info> In-Reply-To: <50EF26BD.60209@dalibo.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org Hi everyone, Il 10/01/13 21:38, damien clochard ha scritto: > So basically we're not submitting trainings on pg.org to upstage > anyone, we just want to let people know what we are doing. My point of view is that, as things stand currently, this is a false problem. Publishing of training events (contrary to what happens with conferences/community events) does not harm anyone if the publisher is a company that is considered to be reliable. Nobody gets bombed with emails or spam, the training events simply sit there, in a separate page. On one side we might want to limit the number of events, but in any case I am sure there will always be people complaining. We could base it on meritocracy, for instance using the sponsors page, but I am afraid controversies will be even more frequent (as that page is not up to date). On the other hand though, we cannot do anything but observe the growth of Postgres demand - with satisfaction, pride and positive mind. So, I stand next to Damien here. I don't see any particular problem with having a higher number of courses allowed in that page, even though I think we should limit that (but set it high). In Italy we are experiencing a similar trend and we currently have a week of courses every month. Sure, we can't promise that they won't be cancelled, but ... who can? And if we don't publish them, who's going to come ever? I think this is one of the duties of the postgresql.org website. Help companies, as well as communities, spread the word of Postgres. And training plays a crucial role in this. Postgresql.org is the main point of contact for new users and newcomers of Postgres, and they need to know who's offering training. It is a service the community delivers to them. So: I'd go for a high value, such as 10 courses a month per organisation. Cheers, Gabriele -- Gabriele Bartolini - 2ndQuadrant Italia PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support gabriele.bartolini@2ndQuadrant.it | www.2ndQuadrant.it -- Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www