Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U644I-0008Ty-Dy for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:02:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U644H-00062a-7L for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:02:01 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:7903:4::125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6448-0005uh-E3; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:01:52 +0000 Received: from 30.55.colo.spiretech.net ([69.168.55.30] helo=lists.commandprompt.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6446-0007gX-Bi; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:01:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (spinlock.commandprompt.com [69.168.55.30]) by lists.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 745353DD; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([71.95.101.172] helo=[192.168.1.5]) by assp.commandprompt.com with ESMTPS(AES256-SHA) (2.1.1); 14 Feb 2013 11:01:48 -0800 Message-ID: <511D3491.8090408@commandprompt.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:01:37 -0800 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Berkus CC: Christoph Berg , Martin Pitt , Magnus Hagander , PostgreSQL WWW , PostgreSQL in Debian , Tom Lane Subject: Re: [pgsql-pkg-debian] Re: We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA References: <20130214122643.GF30046@msgid.df7cb.de> <511D2E58.6010705@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: <511D2E58.6010705@agliodbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Assp-Version: 2.1.1(11364) on assp.commandprompt.com X-Assp-Client-SSL: yes X-Assp-ID: assp.commandprompt.com m1-68508-05218 X-Assp-Envelope-From: jd@commandprompt.com X-Assp-Intended-For: josh@agliodbs.com X-Assp-Original-Subject: Re: [pgsql-pkg-debian] Re: [pgsql-www] We should not transition toapt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org On 02/14/2013 10:35 AM, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Folks, > > (1) Issue with instructions on Ubuntu 12.04 > > 1. install the key using the wget command. Well this isn't that uncommon but I do see your point. > The new process represents a 20X increase in sysadmin time to install > PostgreSQL on a server. This will result in less PostgresQL > installations. Do we really want that? > > Alternately, Martin, this will mean (for our professional clients) > switching from Ubuntu to Red Hat/Fedora, just because it's easier to > maintain PostgreSQL there. That's a bit alarmist, slow down on the coffee. I agree that apt.postgresql.org should work as a simple PPA but I guarantee you that our "professional clients" are not going to switch from Ubuntu to Red Hat/Fedora, that's ridiculous. It will however make them wonder what .org is smoking and if they should just stay with the latest stable release until we get our act together. JD -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Support, Training, Professional Services and Development High Availability, Oracle Conversion, Postgres-XC @cmdpromptinc - 509-416-6579 -- Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www