Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7X0D-0000EE-RC for pgsql-pkg-debian@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:07:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7X0C-0002eM-G3 for pgsql-pkg-debian@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:07:52 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7X0C-0002eE-3C; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:07:52 +0000 Received: from outmail148139.authsmtp.co.uk ([62.13.148.139]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7X09-0004wU-D7; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:07:51 +0000 Received: from mail-c233.authsmtp.com (mail-c233.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.233]) by punt14.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id r1IK7ZMk035912; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:07:35 GMT Received: from [172.47.23.103] (70-36-143-10.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [70.36.143.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id r1IK7VPC038690; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:07:32 GMT Message-ID: <512289FD.3080801@agliodbs.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:07:25 -0800 From: Josh Berkus Organization: PostgreSQL Experts Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner CC: Dave Page , Bruce Momjian , Christoph Berg , Martin Pitt , Magnus Hagander , PostgreSQL WWW , PostgreSQL in Debian , Tom Lane Subject: Re: Re: [pgsql-www] We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA References: <20130214122643.GF30046@msgid.df7cb.de> <511D2E58.6010705@agliodbs.com> <511D4E61.5050808@kaltenbrunner.cc> <20130216013854.GD12029@momjian.us> <5122719B.4090208@kaltenbrunner.cc> In-Reply-To: <5122719B.4090208@kaltenbrunner.cc> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Quench: d52c7b6f-7a06-11e2-a49c-0025907707a1 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZgscClZXSx8a IioLCC5HRQ8+YBZL BAkGMA9GIUINWEQA c1ADfh19PVdbHwkA AHYJW15UV1dyWi1y axRSaxtcZklQXgV1 UktWQhwQFXwTBnph dR4dWh97d0tFeHh3 Zwg2W3IIWxZ8I1t6 E05SCGwHMGV9OWQW A11YdwFReQNNeR9C O1ExNiYHcQ5HMTkh G0orPD90MThVKS1T d0k3IABacl4EBSc4 Ag8dAgBnIkBNXCU0 MhgqYlgbAA4NKEw0 Klo9WFUeewMVaEVX B10LGChCO1YbSjEy CUVdR0FWDTtBQCMU HRBgIhZWD3RbEhJg LSMk X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633136333939.1021:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 70.36.143.10/23 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Mailing-List: pgsql-pkg-debian List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-pkg-debian-owner@postgresql.org Stefan, > I heavily disagree - while there are certainly improvements to be made I > don't think what we have is a "major step backwards" - we now have stuff > we did not have before, like a much larger selection of packages for a > much larger number of distributions and like with every project we ever > did we will have to do incremental improvements.