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Subject: Re: EnterpriseDB Postgres
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:42:27 -0400
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From: "Derek Rodner" <derek.rodner@enterprisedb.com>
To: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
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Josh,

Actually, that is it exactly.  You have summed it up so well when you
said:
" However I wonder, seriously how much of our community would
be willing to deal with that level of newness.

A good portion of our community are DBMS snobs. They have no basis in
reality and are more interested in what is "right" versus what actually
"works".

Is that bad? I don't know, sometimes, sometimes not."

We are trying to make it easy for the newbies and that is what this new
distribution and site are designed for!!!!!

As for the comment about the Fortune 1000?  They ALL RUN MySQL
somewhere.  We know.  We have talked to them.  They actually recognize
that it is not enterprise-class, etc.  but, it was free and easy to use.


Derek M. Rodner
Director, Product Strategy
EnterpriseDB Corporation
732.331.1333 office
484.252.1943 cell
www.enterprisedb.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:jd@commandprompt.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:37 AM
To: Derek Rodner
Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] EnterpriseDB Postgres

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> thrive on that.  My college basketball team is always the underdog.
> EnterpriseDB is the underdog to Oracle.  Postgres is the underdog to
> MySQL.  I am starting to get sick of that and want Postgres to stop
> being the underdog.  We know we are better than MySQL.  Most of the

I was with you, until right here. I think you have vastly misestimated
the market. I will concur that PostgreSQL is the underdog to MySQL in
one very specific sense:

The ignorant and the code monkey.

The knowledgable (including many of the fortune 5000) won't touch MySQL
because it is broke, where PostgreSQL isn't.

Now all that being said, there is zero argument that if you can get all
the people running Ubuntu, wanting to run PostgreSQL that our community
will grow. However I wonder, seriously how much of our community would
be willing to deal with that level of newness.

A good portion of our community are DBMS snobs. They have no basis in
reality and are more interested in what is "right" versus what actually
"works".

Is that bad? I don't know, sometimes, sometimes not.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake
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