Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8BE9FBDA8 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:56:17 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44657-05 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:56:08 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856019FBCE6 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:56:09 -0400 (AST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so2957119wra for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:56:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YftGWz/t4TWDCbMRX5oTnBsH8Q6q4oaeN2P7jGhHwjs6a9CWlh/rlrYtCnPonwvujuV3ZdLxDUNMTcuX+JSam0LrNJkGzC9BPYiqPUHEn/xHp/PdSmhgLiRrFtMJlBkiF4++TFSX1QCHqW48+mj5cRLmAmfuQxU5Ehxx0+xAFxw= Received: by 10.114.197.1 with SMTP id u1mr3893256waf.1172080568338; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.132.17 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:56:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5a0a9d6f0702210956g4dd9cc72gcc363ee7b6aa7615@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:56:08 -0800 From: "Andrew Hammond" To: "Magnus Hagander" Subject: Re: should we have a separate page that clearly defines what a minor release is and why it's a good idea to keep up with them? Cc: "Bruce Momjian" , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <20070221144716.GA21044@svr2.hagander.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070221085343.GB19713@svr2.hagander.net> <200702211430.l1LEUlO00243@momjian.us> <20070221144716.GA21044@svr2.hagander.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/21 X-Sequence-Number: 4152 On 2/21/07, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > > > I think adding to the FAQ is the best solution. What additional > > > > information to we need there? > > > > > > I think it's important enough (and unclear enough to a lot of people) > > > that it shuold have it's own non-FAQ section. Either as a page on the > > > website or as a page in the documentation. > > > > If you look at the developer documentation, you will see I overhauled > > the instructions for upgrading a minor release: > > > > http://momjian.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/install-upgrading.html > > > > I think that would be a good place to add more text. What additional > > text do we need? Something about how you are less likely to hit a new > > bug if you minor upgrade than if you stay on an older release? > > Something about how we put only critical fixes in back branches, and not > new features. How we *really* recommend that people should always be on > the latest release in a branch. How we will never (knowingly) change the > behaviour of anything in a back branch (without being *very* clear in > the release notes of what and why). More focus on how easy that part is. > > Mainly, I think people don't upgrade because (a) they don't know what > they gain, and (b) they're scared something will break. We need to > counter those two arguments. I think this exactly defines what I'm looking for. The most basic approach to risk management is "if it works, don't change it". What I'm looking for is something with which to convince people that the risk of breakage is so low that it's outweighed by the risk of remaining exposed to bugs which haven't caused them problems yet. Andrew