Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB7E9FB50B for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:41:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 46446-04 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:41:23 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE259FB58E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:41:22 -0400 (AST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so226351ugf for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:41:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cM4OJmMllEZ5fXMomS2V9YxNEoaYwLJxHxPMYDv3eENl5ag0+fogNTknU6xif8blOkByC7olTVBERxQHDWFzUdtrm7odz1wrJifXE9TKP1ahRkHn3erF6ztlLIejEi6rmw4o71cicj+Wsap1WrnIeNdgshAJ5f1yQfMJJc1ttKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q4jRBJBzyW3P/T+5LidZN6ER83LeYMUdX7U0DuLleNQnwwXoCkrj0vaDlAHGbBSdKVp/o4OXOC44YY1kqgsg2lHUPRLhQA61Jmlz1MxPRK4+JM70OkjuKdRVpC8BFgMnHlg+dVKlRTx4B1JKYRDq1diluOE6dNZOrP+ij56R27U= Received: by 10.115.54.1 with SMTP id g1mr570677wak.1172187680533; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.132.17 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:41:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5a0a9d6f0702221541x71705642if61ab67ef32d6cdb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:41:20 -0800 From: "Andrew Hammond" To: "Magnus Hagander" Subject: Re: [DOCS] should we have a separate page that clearly defines what a minor release is and why it's a good idea to keep up with them? Cc: "Bruce Momjian" , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org, "PostgreSQL www" In-Reply-To: <45DD8E15.2050006@hagander.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070221144716.GA21044@svr2.hagander.net> <200702211507.l1LF7Me12089@momjian.us> <5a0a9d6f0702211113v740f5014m6e1df594303196b2@mail.gmail.com> <45DD8E15.2050006@hagander.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200702/243 X-Sequence-Number: 11648 On 2/22/07, Magnus Hagander wrote: > Andrew Hammond wrote: > > On 2/21/07, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > >> OK, the FAQ now has: > >> > >>

The PostgreSQL team makes only bug fixes in minor releases, > >> so, for example, upgrading from 7.4.8 to 7.4.9 does not require > >> a dump and restore; merely stop the database server, install > >> the updated binaries, and restart the server.

> >> > >>

All users should upgrade to the most recent minor release as soon > >> as it is available. While upgrades always have some risk, PostgreSQL > >> minor releases fix only common bugs to reduce the risk of upgrading. > >> The community considers not upgrading more risky that > >> upgrading.

> >> > >> What should change about this text? > > > > That it's in the FAQ? I think this is one of the most common > > misunderstandings for people outside the community, so I think we need > > to find a better way to communicate about it. > > Agreed. > > > > On the front page, we already have "Latest Releases" with links to the > > most recent release for each version still actively maintained and > > release notes. (Would it make sense to change that title from "Latest > > Releases" to "Actively Maintained Releases") > > I think not. The meaning is "latest releases available for each branch", > not "these are the actively maintained branches". Why aren't 7.3.18, 7.2.8, 7.1.6, etc there then? Clearly there is some criteria for which branches are presented there. > > What I'd like to see right under it is something like "Minimize your > > risk by keeping up with minor revisions." Which would link to a page > > (perhaps that section of the FAQ) that says something like the > > following. > > I'm bouncing this over to -www as well to hear what people think about > that part. If we do that, I'd definitely like to see a proper page and > not just a FAQ link. I agree, however, it could start as a FAQ link and go from there as time permits. > > There was a posting a while ago about projected lifespans of major > > releases that got side-tracked into a discussion about dropping > > windows builds for 8.0 and 8.1. I think this is related, but I haven't > > figured out how we can express these ideas. > > I fully agree that we need some kind of page that explains "versioning > policy" or something like that. Like how 8.1 is in principle an "equally > major" release as 8.0. I am willing to take a shot at writing a first draft of this page if there's interest in having it. Andrew