X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6286DD1B55F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:39:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08107-05 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:38:35 -0400 (AST) Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (unknown [192.204.191.242]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF95DD1B54E for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:38:31 -0400 (AST) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAKKc519006565; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:38:05 -0500 (EST) To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Peter Eisentraut , Neil Conway , "Matthew T. O'Connor" , "Marc G. Fournier" , Christopher Kings-Lynne , PostgreSQL Development Subject: Re: Release cycle length In-reply-to: <3050000.1069128474@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> References: <3050000.1069128474@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> Comments: In-reply-to Larry Rosenman message dated "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:07:54 -0600" Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:38:05 -0500 Message-ID: <6564.1069360685@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: Tom Lane X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200311/1150 X-Sequence-Number: 47438 Larry Rosenman writes: > wrote: >> 1. Start platform testing on day 1 of beta. Last minute fixes for AIX or >> UnixWare are really becoming old jokes. > The only reason we had last minute stuff for UnixWare this time was the > timing of PG's release and the UP3 release from SCO. Yes. The late fixes for OS X also arose from the fact that Apple released a new OS X version late in our beta cycle. I don't think it's reasonable to complain that there was insufficient port testing done earlier; the issues didn't come from that. I do agree with the opinion that our beta cycles are getting too long, and that it's not clear we are getting any additional reliability out of the longer time period. regards, tom lane