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From: "Gavin M. Roy" <gmr@ehpg.net>
Subject: Re: [Gforge-admins] PgFoundry Move
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:17:03 -0800
To: Darcy Buskermolen <darcy@wavefire.com>

> My concerns with a plan like this are:
> A) I do not know linux as well as FreeBSD.

80% of the Gforge admins are Linux guys afaik, which is why we need  
more FreeBSD help.

> B) Can infrastructure be provided to allow for timely disaster  
> recovery in the
> event of JD's hosting falling off the face of the earth, (much the  
> same way
> the pg servers in panama fell off a while ago).

We don't have this *really* in the case of most of the  
infrastructure, and this isn't in place for pgFoundry right now with  
Marc hosting, afaik.  It is an issue we should be concerned with  
regardless of who's hosting.  That and backup.  I've tried to address  
what's happening (or not happening as I'm afraid) with backup before.

> C) How do we settle on the distro/version of the month, this  
> fundamental issue
> within Linux has always left me with a bad taste in my mouth. (this  
> is a
> personal item and has nothing to say for the quality of FreeBSD or
> Linux/distro).

Unlike *BSD?  Generally there have been distros like Debian and  
Slackware that have been server grade for over 10 years and are  
solid.  I think the distro of the month is a unwarranted slam from  
FreeBSD people who don't see that others see BSD the same way (Free,  
Net, Open, etc) just with less choice for their respective  
communities.  There are lots of Linux distros.  Some are better at  
the desktop, some are better at the server.  Coming up with a  
consensus of what to use would be pretty easy to do.  That being  
said, I don't foresee a day that we'd use Linux just because  
everything else is running on FreeBSD.  Being consistent is a good  
thing.

> D) How does doing something like this affect -core in general (I'm  
> not part of
> core so i have no idea)
>

I don't think it general does.  PgFoundry is isolated away from -core.

Regards,

Gavin