From: Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org>
Subject: Re: gBorg status?
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:55:03 -0400
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The world rejoiced as jd@commandprompt.com ("Joshua D. Drake") wrote:
> Christopher Browne wrote:
>> Oops! jim@nasby.net ("Jim C. Nasby") was seen spray-painting on a wall:
>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:33:36AM -0400, Chris Browne wrote:
>>>> What's up there?  It has been down all week.
>>>>
>>>> We're trying to get the Slony-I 1.2 release out, so we can then
>>>> migrate over to pgFoundry.  But that doesn't working terribly well
>>>> when gBorg's down...
>>> Speaking of which, what's the status of the migration tools? Is that
>>> ball still in Larry's court?
>> Which migration tools?  Were there migration tools specific to
>> gBorg->pgFoundry?  Or something else?
>
> There was, kind of, sort of. AFAIK they are dead and gone and the
> current method of thought on Gborg is here:
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-08/msg01167.php

That seems fine to me.

We already had a plan set up for Slony-I that was not too dissimilar.

To wit...
 - There already is a project set up at pgFoundry, and fairly much 
   all committers at gBorg are members of the project at pgFoundry
 - Downloads are being handled from pgFoundry
 - We figured we'd migrate outstanding bugs to pgFoundry by hand
 - We figured we'd migrate copies of old mailing list archives
 - We figured we'd announce the deaths of old lists, and suggest
   subscribing to the new ones
 - We figured there would be some ability to copy CVS over fairly
   losslessly

The *big* steps are moving email and CVS.

I really haven't yet heard a peep yet that hasn't been third-hand
about the gBorg outage, after it has been out for over a week now.  To
say that's displeasing is something of an understatement.  It
certainly leaves me in no mood to want to keep any services I care to
actually have running hosted on gBorg.

The fact that it has been out for a week, without any public comment
being made, certainly gives me pause.  I *HOPE* that we can still
recover CVS and email.

Question about email: Do we need to migrate the old mailing list
archives before setting up new lists on pgFoundry?  Or could I set up
a "slony1-discuss" at pgFoundry, fairly immediately, and migrate in
old archives later?  [Possibly helpful factor:  It's now September,
and the last gBorg traffic was dated in August, so we may not need to
mix months...]
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