Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BD89FB5DF for ; Wed, 2 May 2007 08:59:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56105-08 for ; Wed, 2 May 2007 08:59:28 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from oxford.xeocode.com (unknown [62.232.55.118]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2849FB5C7 for ; Wed, 2 May 2007 08:59:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=oxford.xeocode.com) by oxford.xeocode.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HjDUV-0000uW-HY; Wed, 02 May 2007 12:59:30 +0100 From: Gregory Stark To: "Bruce Momjian" Cc: "Josh Berkus" , Subject: Re: Feature freeze progress report In-Reply-To: <200705021046.l42Akk127514@momjian.us> (Bruce Momjian's message of "Wed, 2 May 2007 06:46:45 -0400 (EDT)") Organization: EnterpriseDB References: <200705021046.l42Akk127514@momjian.us> X-Draft-From: ("nnimap+mail01.enterprisedb.com:INBOX.hackers" 9117) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 12:59:27 +0100 Message-ID: <87k5vrh1wg.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200705/108 X-Sequence-Number: 102710 "Bruce Momjian" writes: > We seem to handle trivial patches just fine. You keep saying that but I think it's wrong. There are trivial patches that were submitted last year that are still sitting in the queue. In fact I claim we handle complex patches better than trivial ones. HOT, LDC, DSM etc receive tons of feedback and acquire a momentum of their own. Admittedly GII is a counter-example though. On the other hand trivial patches tend to interest relatively few people and have little urgency. > The current problem is that the remaining patches require domain or > subsystem-specific knowledge to apply, e.g. XML or WAL, and those skills are > available in a limited number of people. If I had the expertise in those > areas, I would have applied the patches already. Well, I claim it's often the trivial patches that require the domain-specific knowledge you describe. If they were major patches they would touch more parts of the system. But that means they should be easy to commit if you could just fill in the missing knowledge. Could you pick a non-committer with the domain-specific knowledge you think a patch needs and ask for their analysis of the patch then commit it yourself? You can still review it for general code quality and trust the non-committer's review of whether the domain-specific change is correct. -- Gregory Stark EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com