Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1650A65016D for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:57:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57477-01 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:56:56 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-gx0-f24.google.com (mail-gx0-f24.google.com [209.85.217.24]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612F1650177 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:57:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so1985103gxk.19 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.114.9 with SMTP id r9mr9363967ybm.201.1220306218707; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.156.1 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <937d27e10809011456i3b74004ejf02e8adb26ec8338@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:56:58 +0100 From: "Dave Page" To: "Chander Ganesan" Subject: Re: Download links Cc: "Peter Eisentraut" , pgsql-www@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <48BC5B03.2060400@otg-nc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <937d27e10808110203l790a9c3eud97fdde42f70b92f@mail.gmail.com> <48B85DCF.8070206@gmail.com> <937d27e10808300559l581198bewce0c3727a10c157f@mail.gmail.com> <200808301950.20330.peter_e@gmx.net> <48BC5B03.2060400@otg-nc.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.333 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=SARE_PRODUCT=0.333 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200809/8 X-Sequence-Number: 15717 On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Chander Ganesan wrote: > That being said, the issue that I see with EDB hosting is that they now have > access to information about who is downloading from where, information that > can be used to determine where they should advertise more heavily, what > customers might be investigating PostgreSQL, and even geographical areas > they should focus their marketing and product offerings. The same information that the hosts of the Yum repo, and other distributions have. That is why it was decided that EDB would host the downloads (by PG people, not EDB), despite the fact that I originally wanted to do it through postgresql.org > Information that > isn't available to the PostgreSQL community-at-large, and information that > would likely be useful for lots of other PG related companies, such as OTG, > CMD, 2ndQuadrant and others. Is there even a policy with regard to what > they do with this information? Does the community provide this information > to the public-at-large (I suspect not, for privacy reasons)? Yes, there is an unwritten policy. It basically says that if you're a listed corporate sponsor, you can have one-off traffic reports from time to time, subject to the availability of someone on the webteam to produce what you need. That will generally give far more info than EDB gets from installer downloads. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com