Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4B49FC802 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:12:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 62395-04-7 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:12:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E039FC8E6 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:22:40 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A428DB475C8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:43:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56221-03; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:43:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fserv.hub.org (blk-137-93-67.eastlink.ca [24.137.93.67]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0BCB47581; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:43:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by fserv.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2C34E165; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:43:02 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:42:31 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Joshua D. Drake" cc: Magnus Hagander , Andrew Sullivan , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: what is up with the PG mailing lists? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20071101092806.3b1fa452@scratch> References: <25716.1193887595@sss.pgh.pa.us> <26669.1193891360@sss.pgh.pa.us> <47299585.7030402@hagander.net> <47299957.5020605@postgresql.org> <2968.1193919208@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20071101080959.49f3087b@scratch> <20071101152333.GM27676@crankycanuck.ca> <4729F105.30704@hagander.net> <1127E6493CBA8A29F343C4D7@ganymede.hub.org> <4729F7D2.6050608@hagander.net> <20071101092806.3b1fa452@scratch> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/39 X-Sequence-Number: 12817 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, November 01, 2007 09:28:06 -0700 "Joshua D. Drake" wrote: >> If >> delivery fails, it backs up and tries again *later* ... if there is a > > Why did delivery fail is the question. My logs go back 7 days for email ... if we had a message-id, we could look at that sort of thing relatively easily ... > O.k. this is true but there is something wrong here. Why is the server > so backed up that this is happening in the first place. I'm not so sure that it is 'so backed up' ... but, looking at mailq righ tnow, there are only 3867 messages in the queue ... some of the error codes are stuff like: "450 mailbox unavailable" - great, should be 550, but as its 450, we'll keep retrying "lost connection with mail.mindef.mil.gt" "Host or domain name not found" "451 SPAM not accepted" - again, if you aren't going to accept it, why temporary fail it so that I try again? "Greylisting in action" But, again, it would be interesting to look at a specific one, with message-id, and see what the logs show for reasons of delays ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHKgH34QvfyHIvDvMRAtJBAKCnRMv+Lb31p6l+tBJEQLL85q4oCACg5xv7 wlUXWJcjMh37496mJbyU8nc= =LwYQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----