Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7MpQ-00067o-7N for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:16:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7MpP-0000uX-9h for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:16:03 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:7903:4::125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7MpO-0000uR-Gk for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:16:02 +0000 Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7MpN-0001Qf-5q for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:16:01 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id k13so6773740iea.7 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:15:59 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=RQNnT0YsiwG28fxIVYwM/8D3/vY4F0wFNUnxusxlx58=; b=nclBBifaSCO4vdq0iyRyalXhjAXCE7ne0KKHq/xX+/Vkhq4a0YI9LVxvwp4ctAI8Pi pf5/ApgEP3nYtteTx1c/iDyitP8UsMKblGFnNrvMKTtuiSZW2xFQxxWH6QwbipwuJzX7 PqkxeM9Gf21kiBSuOSM3XeqBOINoSygMgRk14vvMBO66owc4s1/vlUL2dZBJiM7vlu2y 3z7C66RU3WhbH+0nh0PI97eDAEV8CHhIZFbqDmTPHN6zKje+DikDITVN/I+C3iUe/i5Q eRNt19VyNVqYjZ/l17a3sVDdfk/m/9G/YWwQGbCu/YgV+IArGZzIbsLITIUu/xRqrRxZ 1Zcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.140.5 with SMTP id rc5mr792617igb.78.1361178959684; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.21.202 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:15:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130216013854.GD12029@momjian.us> References: <20130214122643.GF30046@msgid.df7cb.de> <511D2E58.6010705@agliodbs.com> <511D4E61.5050808@kaltenbrunner.cc> <20130216013854.GD12029@momjian.us> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:15:59 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [pgsql-pkg-debian] Re: We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA From: Dave Page To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner , Josh Berkus , Christoph Berg , Martin Pitt , Magnus Hagander , PostgreSQL WWW , PostgreSQL in Debian , Tom Lane Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn193YoJ99va60oK8voHvmgmTDdwPcEp345ZQaEjE8rll77ZvajNECk8GzeA0ZT6Mw6TtFL X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Folks, we shouldn't be requiring decoder rings here to install Postgres > --- we have to do better. Agreed. A number of years back we did a lot of work to make it easy for people to download and install PostgreSQL, through redesigns of the download pages and intentionally directing less technical users to the easiest ways to get up and running with everything they need to get started (the one-click installers). That was redesigned a few months back to point less technical users at the RPM/DEB packages instead, as it was felt that with the right wording and stabilisation of the package repos that could be made as easy as the installers. This is a major step backwards, and needs to be fixed ASAP. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www