Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcXI-0004hw-3m for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:57:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcXG-0006MS-Fi for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:57:18 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcXF-0006Lx-QI for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:57:18 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-x52b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52b]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcXC-0005JK-NQ for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:57:16 +0000 Received: by mail-ed1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id s25so14400282edw.0 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 07:57:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pgadmin.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7D+s5j3uqmbWoL84xftmXppJUY4H44vF2p58wt5bDXQ=; b=TW4iEbFIHPvQ8WtXuEU5kFTiE9E6bsU/7JzN0qOGWwBFub03wRi16OUoaLk2+47gW4 4UPyfPZmtaXBZqgqlCEFqME75UIc+n8/Lgx2NW2ySEgRJFy+V8V9Ah2Kfk05iyqukl7k 9o4nOSfLf2aN74GqRcHCjeEi7IYuRftc+2/+Bp7Im9kxEf7umRwuhtAKYxJDbxW1NAId ydo6D//MtUxLpf6wvjknjiGAxewKTFToOE05Pra3tOENYx1e2YnupDQk80u7Z0t/UPm8 eehza9DSUkHT7mvjU5L9asrhO4lWujkW/XEbjrz2jXislE8918VZmTYPAEnWsBuC1n96 vSXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7D+s5j3uqmbWoL84xftmXppJUY4H44vF2p58wt5bDXQ=; b=WNu22X90cFXuGR2Zk83oVMy+TkAQIWsEI7g/x55V79rb6WJ5EPxBlFwvSFHeOkydSp p9YuT8fvw2MQiK0rmgEe+VllvVzNLHdzN8mzh7qfldB9HpBDmxkabCvqqpN79jc2KNFn siyxPRRaIA0jAtA6v8vAX7x7cmOnfbxjbFdlzzlUuvcYs7dFDQVm9prN0kg11uTMsQYm Mtigw+Y9TaVLaEBDNKYAsIev4O1JOZgNVXJuQiPwHUyhw5ypE4Zq3t43segaK8m6jUf2 KwYrgPbEWWzKhnumuxL8NJCBZkuhDEv5oX5fm3KILyo+NQQctZ7QjqUlj4mnjqZgJPKf tZBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533qN7UHpyTW2bJo7/2fwEg9eHM1T6egRIxuOzhEN+ybXD+B7NjL XF5YyzBIRih79UrWBSs+++0pNWlQfIEB65Zl6WsgEiQqKUSEdw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwqbpvovtgtBy3T3hSjP1XUds6svmJaacmJ1ZLT1MeDpjg3GWDBKAACXoYwzcu6KfoYv+eE4YNqJ99jTrPfgrA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:5148:: with SMTP id n8mr18562031edd.277.1631026633162; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 07:57:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7DE7DFFE-0F63-4E10-9F58-AF0538AEEB54@yesql.se> In-Reply-To: <7DE7DFFE-0F63-4E10-9F58-AF0538AEEB54@yesql.se> From: Dave Page Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 15:57:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Add AIX on the PostgreSQL Download page To: Daniel Gustafsson Cc: "Jonathan S. Katz" , "REIX, Tony" , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000016d59505cb68fbfb" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --00000000000016d59505cb68fbfb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:26 PM Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > > On 7 Sep 2021, at 16:10, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > > > > On 9/7/21 4:06 AM, REIX, Tony wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am interested in knowing if AIX could be added to the PostgreSQL pag= e > >> https://www.postgresql.org/download/ , either as a link to a PostgreSQ= L > >> web-site page where instructions can be given and updated about where = to > >> get RPMs for AIX and how to install them, plus news about new versions > >> and releases, or a link to a page out of PostgreSQL web-site. > >> > >> We (Bull/ATOS BullFreeware: http://www.bullfreeware.com, and IBM AIX > >> ToolBox: > >> > https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/aix-toolbox-linux-applications-overview= ) > >> are providing OpenSource packages (inc. PostgreSQL) for AIX under RPM > >> format since ages and we'd like to enable PostgreSQL for AIX to be mor= e > >> visible by PostgreSQL users. > > > > Looking at the available packages[1], it does not appear that all of th= e > > community supported versions are updated (e.g. the last 9.6 updates wer= e > > in 2018). It also seems that package updates are random -- e.g. there > > was a 13.1 release, and a 13.4 release, which misses several bug fix + > > security releases, and they come out several weeks after the release. > > Do we have a strict policy around this? Some package managers are still = at > 13.3 ~ a month out and the Fink macOS package manager doesn=E2=80=99t hav= e v13 at > all > AFAICT? > The packages in the "primary" section are supposed to be released in sync with our releases, and their packagers are expected to keep in the loop on the -packagers list. Ones that are released later should either be unlisted, or in the 3rd party section. > > > I'd be more open to this if the packages themselves were hosted on > > community infrastructure and were consistent with the rest of the > > packaging projects. > > That seems a high bar to cross given that we don=E2=80=99t host macOS, Wi= ndows and > the > BSD=E2=80=99s today but link to those. > I agree. > > > Right now I'm -1 on this; additionally, I'm > > generally -1 to adding more additional offsite links to downloads. > > Unrelated but semi-related, if we don=E2=80=99t want new links we should = probably > remove the Solaris download link which doesn=E2=80=99t even link to downl= oadable > packages. > +1 --=20 Dave Page Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com --00000000000016d59505cb68fbfb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:26 PM Daniel= Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se> = wrote:
> On 7 Sep 2021, at 16:10, Jonathan S. = Katz <jkatz@po= stgresql.org> wrote:
>
> On 9/7/21 4:06 AM, REIX, Tony wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am interested in knowing if AIX could be added to the PostgreSQL= page
>> https://www.postgresql.org/download/ , either as a = link to a PostgreSQL
>> web-site page where instructions can be given and updated about wh= ere to
>> get RPMs for AIX and how to install them, plus news about new vers= ions
>> and releases, or a link to a page out of PostgreSQL web-site.
>>
>> We (Bull/ATOS BullFreeware: http://www.bullfreeware.com,=C2= =A0 and IBM AIX
>> ToolBox:
>> https://www.ibm.co= m/support/pages/aix-toolbox-linux-applications-overview)
>> are providing OpenSource packages (inc. PostgreSQL) for AIX under = RPM
>> format since ages and we'd like to enable PostgreSQL for AIX t= o be more
>> visible by PostgreSQL users.
>
> Looking at the available packages[1], it does not appear that all of t= he
> community supported versions are updated (e.g. the last 9.6 updates we= re
> in 2018). It also seems that package updates are random -- e.g. there<= br> > was a 13.1 release, and a 13.4 release, which misses several bug fix +=
> security releases, and they come out several weeks after the release.<= br>
Do we have a strict policy around this?=C2=A0 Some package managers are sti= ll at
13.3 ~ a month out and the Fink macOS package manager doesn=E2=80=99t have = v13 at all
AFAICT?

The packages in the "prima= ry" section are supposed to be released in sync with our releases, and= their packagers are expected to keep in the loop on the -packagers list.

Ones that are released later should either be unlis= ted, or in the 3rd party section.
=C2=A0

> I'd be more open to this if the packages themselves were hosted on=
> community infrastructure and were consistent with the rest of the
> packaging projects.

That seems a high bar to cross given that we don=E2=80=99t host macOS, Wind= ows and the
BSD=E2=80=99s today but link to those.

= I agree.
=C2=A0

> Right now I'm -1 on this; additionally, I'm
> generally -1 to adding more additional offsite links to downloads.

Unrelated but semi-related, if we don=E2=80=99t want new links we should pr= obably
remove the Solaris download link which doesn=E2=80=99t even link to downloa= dable
packages.

+1=C2=A0

=
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Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
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