Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TpPtV-0006IY-EP for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:54:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TpPtU-0006pS-F8 for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:54:04 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([98.129.198.125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TpPtT-0006pM-Ez for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:54:03 +0000 Received: from mail-ia0-f178.google.com ([209.85.210.178]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TpPtR-0002o1-2T for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:54:02 +0000 Received: by mail-ia0-f178.google.com with SMTP id k25so9939621iah.23 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:53:59 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=bW0caR8zjbaHHH2sWLV/2uVwZfIqStTrxam1nle1Oag=; b=I1jro7ylxne6OmXvO9zuDcdjGCH6l9CWDlvXTqsJNKiDyH10/T9qbf8/2Hus17taEU v+odOrm3YJSaUOjQXmheyI44CYvEfHt7ORC//gjbHEaBq3hna7HjV1exI7uixpJq0rMF J1lk4FJNaI5eHT50I5b9+KZ/4pl1OHc5yZurd53jlXmDI3S6B/6aHfYWkKTVkOe4zNby 5a2jVMYRKr/Rv1w6OfFqAQHYh9STmAAvBOKrmGoYH3xJwfOTLtiU7U9jHQu3FVp03Hzs McWJDCxf+LDL4cdPD3vGb/bWRCTdWjEzx3/SoPa27+ybSiEZovnxMCcloLMk4dYGF6D9 +4aA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.133 with SMTP id i5mr33843134igq.67.1356900839405; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.148.40 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:53:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <16596.1356900153@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <16596.1356900153@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:53:59 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New archives for testing From: Dave Page To: Tom Lane Cc: Magnus Hagander , PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae934090d87399e04d2181890 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk+cpx7R6WxfACk7ojKE4z2rNdgXK2mzl5hMbbgfHnvL7arETX0Etem0VDjE/ccffJ+2o7e X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org --14dae934090d87399e04d2181890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sunday, December 30, 2012, Tom Lane wrote: > Magnus Hagander > writes: > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Dave Page > > wrote: > >> The prompt isn't shown on all browsers, so we should stick it on the > >> website somewhere too. > > > Ugh, that's annoying. > > > Do you think we can get away without putting it next to every single > > link? Because I'm not sure how we can do that without making it look > > like crap. But if we don't, are people likely to ever read it? > > How big a problem is this? When I checked, both Safari and Firefox > showed the prompt. If there are just a few little-used browsers that > fail to show it, I'm not convinced that we have to clutter the pages > for everybody to cater to them. I can think of more than a few other > sites where that prompt is pretty damn essential for usability, so > I would argue that a browser that doesn't show it is broken anyhow. > I don't think it was originally intended as a prompt (it's the security realm actually), but most browsers showed it anyway and it's been (ab)used that way for years. FYI, the browser I saw not displaying it was Safari on iOS, so most definitely not 'little used'. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company --14dae934090d87399e04d2181890 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sunday, December 30, 2012, Tom Lane wrote:
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Dave Page <
dpage@= pgadmin.org> wrote:
>> The prompt isn't shown on all browsers, so we should stick it = on the
>> website somewhere too.

> Ugh, that's annoying.

> Do you think we can get away without putting it next to every single > link? Because I'm not sure how we can do that without making it lo= ok
> like crap. But if we don't, are people likely to ever read it?

How big a problem is this? =C2=A0When I checked, both Safari and Firefox showed the prompt. =C2=A0If there are just a few little-used browsers that<= br> fail to show it, I'm not convinced that we have to clutter the pages for everybody to cater to them. =C2=A0I can think of more than a few other<= br> sites where that prompt is pretty damn essential for usability, so
I would argue that a browser that doesn't show it is broken anyhow.

I don't think it was originally intend= ed as a prompt (it's the security realm actually), but mos= t browsers showed it anyway and it's been (ab)used that way for years. = FYI, the browser I saw not displaying it was Safari on iOS, so most definit= ely not 'little used'.


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