Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQopJ-0004OO-49 for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 07:59:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQopG-0001vG-SV for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 07:59:46 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQopG-0001v9-H3 for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 07:59:46 +0000 Received: from mail-it1-x142.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::142]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQopD-00060U-2O for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 07:59:46 +0000 Received: by mail-it1-x142.google.com with SMTP id m141so3353103ita.3 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 00:59:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pgadmin.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5Ida6QNlZo3ENF1qwCZIQ2NVgXkrng+jFgT02bicwKo=; b=kuWRqBw8Em1TTfjC7PzQx29qbzBHgrgpZslZsosBdEeLDucG62AZgerMNfoKT1HjMa N9ap7g3m8zTON4veADBiV7KNuJPkZIBezBoVPVSGy5SmsT6jCZBrG0fS8vDHwbxPZk+U TG+bA41wHFnXyG/UuQ4YMSMngrb1cVKJVBPC1BT2g1AaJz77VYpLo++kx/1ul0hAd4u1 RvHvc7g0L9RQxpClCCxjC6s+ap3QFLJumyH6O/7afmutknzxprJ1tOtv0Ni2ZZAW9KIT 7IjgkrWJo4WlmwYtv76dX1ju45wrKyxqTvBJqfd92y62VMwHEHo591/rHODQvQSOaK4Y Y1Xg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5Ida6QNlZo3ENF1qwCZIQ2NVgXkrng+jFgT02bicwKo=; b=Ma9nEhFGYhFJPE4hpHH4QUngVbpDg1gR3DQSPzQtaCbwS7wIvOGu7QCeDTn8oDMhA1 6b5STlJ+B6QxoEtpuXZSRECD5aVU6NnybBfX0RkIoFC57iq/nQZj+87rkbq4IZ4Gapxz uS50av3R2AKUbOcz7AVj5xJCwf+cqo2beAlFUz9WVPWr9e2qYZW493A4b1YPeTk2SjQ7 +u8z7aZZB1V/D+O+LiUauG+XCc7tseedHTFaV5PwsUj1IzWUCRoaIigWzxmCpUvlWasW CDgVkbSvjt9MM3Kk+SrdU42cOCIFWP5ji5XZS52ZaDTjQbCCk8O2v5ZDUUVa/fAhY34B q34Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWKkmVlsjgLpMwMVmIKELS4ch9O71QJbiwPViJtI4Fwh1mproxC uQQLV+XKKYOUk/azc22VtAgS0iIwycQbburVJL9U/AyvK2w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx5qQdSa1KgxZVW4SYmLp96jMFl6DKgfbkSMx5fxa0xMuxgn3XqvseDX6APs/eMjWbgmhBfSP+TvcCUPoU2nIU= X-Received: by 2002:a02:1a89:: with SMTP id 131mr24670125jai.78.1557907180685; Wed, 15 May 2019 00:59:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190514142529.GX28936@fetter.org> <20190515034443.GY28936@fetter.org> In-Reply-To: <20190515034443.GY28936@fetter.org> From: Dave Page Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 08:59:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cleaning up the Download options To: David Fetter Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000019290c0588e8884c" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --00000000000019290c0588e8884c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 4:44 AM David Fetter wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 04:23:46PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 3:25 PM David Fetter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 04:13:40PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > > > > I've just reviewed all the download options on the website. A number > are > > > > out of date or have other issues, so I think we need to have a > cleanup: > > > > > > > > Primary downloads: > > > > > > > > - postgresql.org packages are up to date. > > > > - EDB installers are up to date. > > > > - BigSQL installers are up to date. > > > > - postgres.app is up to date. > > > > - Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn't carry 11 > at all > > > > as far as I can tell. > > > > - MacPorts is up to date. > > > > - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site which after many > > > clicks > > > > gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've fixed that now. The > > > > packages appear to be a release behind on all supported branches. > > > > > > > > Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink and Brew > > > > distributions? We used to require that the primary downloads be > > > maintained > > > > on our schedule, so by rights they should be removed. > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by this, but homebrew keeps in step with > > > upstream very quickly, often before some of the others listed above. > > > > Not according to https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/postgresql#default > > What I see there: 11.3, 10.6, 9.6.13, 9.5.15, 9.4.21 > The most recent releases: 11.3, 10.8, 9.6.13, 9.5.17, 9.4.22 > > Is this really drastically out of step, given that a new install, by > default, would be 11.3? > I never said it was drastically out of step. However, those distributions listed on the "primary" section are expected to be fully up to date, not months out of date as is the case with some of those branches. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company --00000000000019290c0588e8884c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 4:44 AM David= Fetter <david@fetter.org> wr= ote:
On Tue, May= 14, 2019 at 04:23:46PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 3:25 PM David Fetter <david@fetter.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 04:13:40PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> > > I've just reviewed all the download options on the websi= te. A number are
> > > out of date or have other issues, so I think we need to have= a cleanup:
> > >
> > > Primary downloads:
> > >
> > > - postgresql.org packages are up to date.
> > > - EDB installers are up to date.
> > > - BigSQL installers are up to date.
> > > - postgres.app is up to date.
> > > - Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn'= t carry 11 at all
> > > as far as I can tell.
> > > - MacPorts is up to date.
> > > - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site which aft= er many
> > clicks
> > > gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've fixed t= hat now. The
> > > packages appear to be a release behind on all supported bran= ches.
> > >
> > > Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink a= nd Brew
> > > distributions? We used to require that the primary downloads= be
> > maintained
> > > on our schedule, so by rights they should be removed.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean by this, but homebrew keeps in ste= p with
> > upstream very quickly, often before some of the others listed abo= ve.
>
> Not according to https://formulae.brew.sh/fo= rmula/postgresql#default

What I see there:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A011.3, 10.6, 9.6.13, 9.5.= 15, 9.4.21
The most recent releases: 11.3, 10.8, 9.6.13, 9.5.17, 9.4.22

Is this really drastically out of step, given that a new install, by
default, would be 11.3?

I never said it= was drastically out of step. However, those distributions listed on the &q= uot;primary" section are expected to be fully up to date, not months o= ut of date as is the case with some of those branches.
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Dave Page
Blog= : http://pgsnake.= blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

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