Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTME2-0001yv-VW for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 08:03:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTME0-000718-Ji for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 08:03:48 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTME0-000711-2O for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 08:03:48 +0000 Received: from mail-it1-x143.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::143]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTMDs-0001Qx-8d for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 08:03:47 +0000 Received: by mail-it1-x143.google.com with SMTP id i10so2096982ite.0 for ; Wed, 22 May 2019 01:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pgadmin.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OYlVPaXvCGmJzZa7RykNZBvvCj47pPDNO/lf9A+Ksj4=; b=YB4Awk0SGkye718naKsyrI9IaoiD8Nv0P7VON/uDLQSXkniv/L0KFo61VSjMPse92P BpU3zmC35OcN7NSK/Ph2XizbdmB8CEwZ+UqLCEiAXKVhvMeNMcWBlEXh3u2LyispfoD/ wkDrkZFI15Rn6oat4m3G6x8pn/nXqTCleKlceJSJ6wt4QqH1o8OE8KxQS379BOaQk5RH B/HBcjR15TJjd2IYpV0/hZcV7c7JXLGuv908G19AWadtbfyBeoxYvQqjIBAdc/Kt/Uk8 RtI08xN2OzaIfb28aBXlf4fHMc7KZkfBrLLW/4hHAcONqCwOu92HqAyvqqJGIWVsQbTd NlKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OYlVPaXvCGmJzZa7RykNZBvvCj47pPDNO/lf9A+Ksj4=; b=CvlE/AaQ3dtJkC9wt5A1wbUpd6MZtAvEBVMaAAP1J/dSWVqHdb94GJEawJaT/zl2hB Vs5NJ2FbHBCizGHWMzJK79rTIrhOwZ8xF4YzxO3Z95RYwjjNwtABpfq4cCRulsT1woVu gbNfMoThXLBEDjfUyMe6SIFrp4CKOG2ppixFAyftDbM9MNuqx3NUddMOgKZymS0rC7of 6F6GOAiYBQysCOtxxb+NnEr8mSWhv2xTWXjSLot+ZThfIWbyIjascHxMQnbkCChYo/Px yeJMMep0f1/s4l68yIghI88vyZontFds8eWQ3tSCcf+SO4MtkNp6JuHWLg4jxM6a9aFU i8FQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX85ig/WuWNwevYSJRh/13V/lLCirvMPwW1yCV0HXqtvPWI5rZ3 Sky7yLC+yTCuBnIZRS0eyOClOVOpydAy/pXHHd5+Sw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyQghU8goBEcYl7ySrWQGaHf0jZrqvuihe534B7o6G2aGK7KDGQLzpTID37T15HobsPtn9JhP9AfsYACVlUWSM= X-Received: by 2002:a24:9d94:: with SMTP id f142mr6978916itd.179.1558512218395; Wed, 22 May 2019 01:03:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Page Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 09:03:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cleaning up the Download options To: Umair Shahid Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000027dcc20589756745" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --00000000000027dcc20589756745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 6:25 PM Umair Shahid wrote: > > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:46 PM Umair Shahid > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:34 PM Dave Page wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:30 PM Umair Shahid >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:49 AM Umair Shahid >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:14 PM Dave Page wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've just reviewed all the download options on the website. A number >>>>>> are out of date or have other issues, so I think we need to have a cleanup: >>>>>> >>>>>> Primary downloads: >>>>>> >>>>>> - postgresql.org packages are up to date. >>>>>> - EDB installers are up to date. >>>>>> - BigSQL installers are up to date. >>>>>> - postgres.app is up to date. >>>>>> - Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn't carry 11 at >>>>>> all as far as I can tell. >>>>>> - MacPorts is up to date. >>>>>> - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site which after many >>>>>> clicks gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've fixed that now. The >>>>>> packages appear to be a release behind on all supported branches. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink and Brew >>>>>> distributions? We used to require that the primary downloads be maintained >>>>>> on our schedule, so by rights they should be removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Secondary (third party) downloads: >>>>>> >>>>>> - LiveCD - this hasn't been updated since 9.6 in December 2016. It >>>>>> should be removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> - 2UDA - This hasn't been updated since May 2018, and is currently >>>>>> carrying 11beta1, 10.4, 9.6.9 and 9.5.13. I think this should be removed. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I know there is an effort in the works to accommodate Postgres >>>>> Installer from 2ndQuadrant in the Downloads section somewhere. That is one >>>>> reason 2UDA hasn't been updated. Perhaps we can redirect the 2UDA traffic >>>>> to Postgres Installer till we figure out how to restructure the Downloads >>>>> section? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I didn't hear back anything on this suggestion. I can get the redirect >>>> added quite quickly if there are no objections. >>>> >>> >>> No, because as I mentioned in my original email, I went on leave. I'm >>> still working through my backlog. >>> >> >> I understand. I didn't mean my comment to be directed at you. >> >> >>> >>> The PostgreSQL installers and 2UDA are different things and should be >>> treated on their own merits in my opinion. We should not have links for one >>> thing that point to something that is obviously quite different. >>> >> >> I think that makes sense. Perhaps we should consider changing the text to >> better suit Postgres Installer rather than 2UDA here. >> >> Separate FYI, 2ndQuadrant had restarted efforts on 2UDA anyways and will >> be making updated packages available before the end of next week. >> > > FYI, updated 2UDA packages are now available on the said link. > Thanks Umair. I assume the intention is to keep them up to date moving forwards? -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company --00000000000027dcc20589756745 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 6:25 PM Umair= Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.co= m> wrote:


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:46 PM Umai= r Shahid <um= air.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tue, May 14, 2= 019 at 4:34 PM Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Tue, May= 14, 2019 at 12:30 PM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:49 AM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> w= rote:


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:14 PM Dave Page <= dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
I've just reviewed all the download options on the websit= e. A number are out of date or have other issues, so I think we need to hav= e a cleanup:

Primary downloads:

- postgresql.org p= ackages are up to date.
- EDB installers are up to da= te.
- BigSQL installers are up to date.
- postgres.app = is up to date.
- Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and = doesn't carry 11 at all as far as I can tell.
- MacPorts is u= p to date.
- The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site whi= ch after many clicks gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've f= ixed that now. The packages appear to be a release behind on all supported = branches.

Thoughts on whether we should make any c= hanges to the Fink and Brew distributions? We used to require that the prim= ary downloads be maintained on our schedule, so by rights they should be re= moved.

Secondary (third party) downloads:

- LiveCD - this hasn't been updated since 9.6 in Decem= ber 2016. It should be removed.

- 2UDA - This hasn= 't been updated since May 2018, and is currently carrying 11beta1, 10.4= , 9.6.9 and 9.5.13. I think this should be removed.

I know there is an effort in the works to accomm= odate Postgres Installer from 2ndQuadrant in the Downloads section somewher= e. That is one reason 2UDA hasn't been updated. Perhaps we can redirect= the 2UDA traffic to Postgres Installer till we figure out how to restructu= re the Downloads section?=C2=A0

I didn't hear back anything on this suggestion. I can get the re= direct added quite quickly if there are no objections.=C2=A0

No, because as I mentioned in my origin= al email, I went on leave. I'm still working through my backlog.
<= /div>

I understand. I didn't mean= my comment to be directed at you.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

The PostgreSQL installers and 2UDA are different= things and should be treated on their own merits in my opinion. We should = not have links for one thing that point to something that is obviously quit= e different.

I think that= makes sense. Perhaps we should consider changing the text to better suit P= ostgres Installer rather than 2UDA here.=C2=A0

Sep= arate FYI, 2ndQuadrant had restarted efforts on 2UDA anyways and will be ma= king updated packages available before the end of next week.=C2=A0

FYI, updated 2UDA packages are no= w available on the said link.=C2=A0

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Thanks Umair. I assume the intention is to keep them up to date = moving forwards?
=C2=A0
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Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake=

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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