Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvOk-0001IC-RI for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 15:00:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvOj-0002iw-In for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 15:00:49 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvOi-0002ij-Tr for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 15:00:49 +0000 Received: from mail-it1-x143.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::143]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvOe-0007EF-I7 for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 15:00:48 +0000 Received: by mail-it1-x143.google.com with SMTP id i63so622819ita.3 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 08:00:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pgadmin.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QyVDAQIXfc2wzBYpDivNdwtNRzB+fLSqkySfQ/XutdE=; b=L2RslOdw7cOyeOZFti/WFQBX8VBBXZuKRouUJnBJJrBPlcm1n9GqLc02Ufklzj2b70 4osllGRhvVXEsbYfFGYbYqiQGtUui9Mi1RbY+r7xPFQIfsx2VuGONKeW5eiEQud2MKu1 4gECjRa7a3lUkyNEX43za2FJWBI3HVrgTZZVHEaEzSwKDCPBrngTuNTJipQfpQBnkfir dm2VTY8OJFnQHq5RiWEYu9teSTpu01qnu300jkySwvsZ/2eeV6DoYdH7IYHSHCOAf1oc XH7Lys2D9oR5PqR1611d+Wt3sFI1jHWkP5ROLkJBACd7HYlla8P+yLpF3y1F1WoJZ06u 4iCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QyVDAQIXfc2wzBYpDivNdwtNRzB+fLSqkySfQ/XutdE=; b=rKBo/F9/zU68qgLGVL4FTc8ckFk4vLfkAXhr7b+7Du+b9rW7uNf3rVheE2eGDabieY DN8dv2bHLayQRFAu3QaCnizCoMXpdIsQ8+T0sa41yBaQ6GgDLjah/kmq2CZgJLNXIDec q5m1QA104yNaXhqqUnHfV4H1wcdg6ItO9d4NiL3dNfQ5hvMr0oO34CeOrM3Ab878Ndis PkmsFhTPz3Og4EA0D7f7qdWeYOfSFuz7fbOS/2Yy1/bHpl7BgkM6ZrgdDdt/LvtV3Pqy bqDOy4JModRwjfXIvbbiFVw387SZ8NLJrXHA7aCgVx/L6PVL5i2hbErWo7tvJNqlbUYK VYFA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXoUyE5510XQ6ijvaeXqMMpWxZOTR0DOI3+YD4MoyaK+j7FUpvw fEYS8vGIQoTTqi+oX4NTz0Z8bFK2wE57FZiIOPzSsXoDa/0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzYq8C61O6lMwIFj9VrkjY5l2e1kQ3O87407o96D0RYhrlq0je9GLPCylvnhvRPlUZmnVMkRCO9OEBPVJ7XoMo= X-Received: by 2002:a24:9906:: with SMTP id a6mr7753663ite.52.1557932442337; Wed, 15 May 2019 08:00:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190514142529.GX28936@fetter.org> <20190515034443.GY28936@fetter.org> <20190515141544.GA28936@fetter.org> In-Reply-To: <20190515141544.GA28936@fetter.org> From: Dave Page Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 16:00:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cleaning up the Download options To: David Fetter Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cf5fc40588ee6952" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --000000000000cf5fc40588ee6952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:15 PM David Fetter wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 08:59:28AM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 4:44 AM David Fetter wrote: > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 04:23:46PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 3:25 PM David Fetter > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 04:13:40PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > > > > > > I've just reviewed all the download options on the website. A > number > > > are > > > > > > out of date or have other issues, so I think we need to have a > > > cleanup: > > > > > > > > > > > > Primary downloads: > > > > > > > > > > > > - postgresql.org packages are up to date. > > > > > > - EDB installers are up to date. > > > > > > - BigSQL installers are up to date. > > > > > > - postgres.app is up to date. > > > > > > - Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn't carry > 11 > > > at all > > > > > > as far as I can tell. > > > > > > - MacPorts is up to date. > > > > > > - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site which after > many > > > > > clicks > > > > > > gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've fixed that now. > The > > > > > > packages appear to be a release behind on all supported branches. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink and > Brew > > > > > > distributions? We used to require that the primary downloads be > > > > > maintained > > > > > > on our schedule, so by rights they should be removed. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by this, but homebrew keeps in step with > > > > > upstream very quickly, often before some of the others listed > above. > > > > > > > > Not according to https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/postgresql#default > > > > > > What I see there: 11.3, 10.6, 9.6.13, 9.5.15, 9.4.21 > > > The most recent releases: 11.3, 10.8, 9.6.13, 9.5.17, 9.4.22 > > > > > > Is this really drastically out of step, given that a new install, by > > > default, would be 11.3? > > > > > > > I never said it was drastically out of step. However, those distributions > > listed on the "primary" section are expected to be fully up to date, not > > months out of date as is the case with some of those branches. > > For people using MacOS, homebrew can be a real time saver, broadly > speaking. I'll commit to keeping the minor versions patched, and while > I can't guarantee that those patches will be applied immediately, I > can say I have yet to wait more than three days for that to happen. > Great, thanks. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company --000000000000cf5fc40588ee6952 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:15 PM David= Fetter <david@fetter.org> wr= ote:
On Wed, May= 15, 2019 at 08:59:28AM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 4:44 AM David Fetter <david@fetter.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 04:23:46PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 3:25 PM David Fetter <david@fetter.org> wrote:<= br> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 04:13:40PM +0100, Dave Page wro= te:
> > > > > I've just reviewed all the download options on= the website. A number
> > are
> > > > > out of date or have other issues, so I think we ne= ed to have a
> > cleanup:
> > > > >
> > > > > Primary downloads:
> > > > >
> > > > > - postgresql.org packages are up to date.
> > > > > - EDB installers are up to date.
> > > > > - BigSQL installers are up to date.
> > > > > - postgres.app is up to date.
> > > > > - Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and = doesn't carry 11
> > at all
> > > > > as far as I can tell.
> > > > > - MacPorts is up to date.
> > > > > - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site= which after many
> > > > clicks
> > > > > gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I'= ve fixed that now. The
> > > > > packages appear to be a release behind on all supp= orted branches.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to = the Fink and Brew
> > > > > distributions? We used to require that the primary= downloads be
> > > > maintained
> > > > > on our schedule, so by rights they should be remov= ed.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure what you mean by this, but homebrew ke= eps in step with
> > > > upstream very quickly, often before some of the others = listed above.
> > >
> > > Not according to https://formulae.= brew.sh/formula/postgresql#default
> >
> > What I see there:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A011.3, 10.6, 9.= 6.13, 9.5.15, 9.4.21
> > The most recent releases: 11.3, 10.8, 9.6.13, 9.5.17, 9.4.22
> >
> > Is this really drastically out of step, given that a new install,= by
> > default, would be 11.3?
> >
>
> I never said it was drastically out of step. However, those distributi= ons
> listed on the "primary" section are expected to be fully up = to date, not
> months out of date as is the case with some of those branches.

For people using MacOS, homebrew can be a real time saver, broadly
speaking. I'll commit to keeping the minor versions patched, and while<= br> I can't guarantee that those patches will be applied immediately, I
can say I have yet to wait more than three days for that to happen.

Great, thanks.
=C2=A0
-- =
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.= com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The = Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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