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To: Christoph Berg <[email protected]>
To: PostgreSQL WWW <[email protected]>
To: Adrian Vondendriesch <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: apt.postgresql.org django app for www.postgresql.org
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:20:48 +0100
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On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:08 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 3:09 PM Christoph Berg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Re: To PostgreSQL WWW 2019-01-30 <[email protected]>
>> > Updated for python3. I had to fix several places where {{package}} was
>> > rendered as "Package Object". The new syntax is {{package.package}}.
>>
>> Ping?
>>
>
> I spent a bunch of time playing with this, as I intend to get repo
> browsing for both Yum and Apt onto the website.
>
> There was quite a bit of work to do to get it working with modern versions
> of Django and Python 3. Once I got through enough of that to start looking
> at the actual functionality what I found was *really* comprehensive.
> Unfortunately I think there's actually far more there than we should put on
> the main website.
>
> - I think the QA section is clearly something that's aimed at you as
> maintainers of the apt repos. This definitely doesn't belong on the main
> website in my opinion.
>
> - The madison interface is also interesting (academically), but I think is
> of little use to the vast majority of our users; I'm not even sure that the
> majority of Debian/Ubuntu users would know about rmadison.
>
> - Similarly, I think the binary and source package pages are far more
> comprehensive than most of our users need or would care about.
>
> One of the biggest barriers of adoption to PostgreSQL is the perceived
> complexity, including that of getting it up and running. That's why I'm
> spending a lot of time at the moment trying to simplify and clarify the
> download and installation processes. I think what we have in this patch
> will simply be information overload for most of our users.
>
> My suggestion is that we incorporate a relatively simple browser into the
> main website, which allows users to easily browse the available packages
> and see the details of them. I already have the repo scanning part of that
> done for both apt and yum, generating JSON output in a way that can be
> integrated with our download server sync process, which can load that into
> the website database.
>
> I would support a separate site (probably under apt.enterprisedb.com)
> that supports the level of functionality you have in your patch; and I
> think much, if not all of the code you currently have could be used for
> that. This could of course be linked from the main website.
>
Obviously that should be apt.postgresql.org :-)
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Dave Page
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