Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E42AD7E31 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:52:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SgHlj-0006Ni-Qy for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:52:06 +0000 Received: by vcbf11 with SMTP id f11so2315636vcb.19 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=RR7eKgfF6x/9PwuWMmhlRkUWs9HR0R3F5eDPwdNDAq8=; b=D13qRJDevpCJCq2P4o0BBwnsG8gw2gfPJoXvAYag3X+Yo4Yy7QfU/FZEEzssPzfiu6 ls0pkOASD1aRo8Q0aALwaU0Wfz9VmIr+cwCiBu00KwiuqQJsTFz4m2yHgOIBG5CD+QqM jXqz7EFJsNUpY4DIcyL5a+QJ50RqGykcrr61oBgTyfIgee4AaAoQ5dgBbFMXjABW644l sHPJwX+9o7w68zvXe0IloAbFN+8H53cpXfPWZKF5FPbuK9A7/AG4ljisWZn6yiKJyukz opMx5GbR/Zp/kFkaXehdPYSwmDKiRyINRgT37Tvpz0bDkVRA8SBx5kwyie4AcceFNEkH /Rhw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.209.75 with SMTP id gf11mr6347197vcb.56.1339948310196; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.182.168 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:51:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Some restructuring of the download section From: Dave Page To: Magnus Hagander Cc: PostgreSQL WWW , Palle Girgensohn , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pierre=2DEmmanuel_Andr=E9?= , bjorn.munch@oracle.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlNHdQyL2K/JIEvJD1KVJZfweKqUHBvYWBPZ5Ix5P6pvBEnml3ydyXXYfWy3eJZ7mnldqTU X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201206/35 X-Sequence-Number: 20729 On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Dave Page wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: >>> >>>> The large bold warnings about the installers were added because they >>>> used to be listed at the top of the page, above the platform-specific >>>> packaging options (because they tended to confuse people less). It's >>>> yet to be seen if users will become confused again - we have the info >>>> they should need now, but I suspect that doesn't necessarily mean >>>> they'll read it before emailing us. In any case, I think those >>>> warnings should either be removed or made non-bold now. >>> >>> I wouldn't want to remove them at all, since they're clearly still correct. >>> >>> In fact, given the number of people I've run into who've had problems >>> because of that, I'd rather leave them as bold as well. >> >> Citations please? I don't recall ever hearing of people running into >> such problems. I still maintain that it should be pretty blindingly > > As I've said previously, it's mainly been from people who aren't on > our lists, so I can't easily point there. I know it's up on the lists > every now and then as well, but it's getting too late in the evening > to spend time searching for that. > > I've heard it from customers. I've heard it from people I've met at > conferences. I've heard it in IRC channels. I've heard it in > usergroups. So why don't I hear it? I get enough private emails from users with other questions/comments - presumably as my name is next to the download link. Regardless though - I'm fine with leaving it there, or removing it. I would rather remove it to simplify the text, but most importantly don't think it should be bold, for exactly the reason Kevin gave. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company