From dpage@pgadmin.org Sat May 23 16:04:17 2026 Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4859066CF for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:35:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.160.46]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Scgbn-0001Ft-5T for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:35:12 +0000 Received: by pbbrp8 with SMTP id rp8so1369937pbb.19 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:34:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=1WVB3r6/M3cJBg+nE3dkCNy5OGBycvNDkhbvaUWpmpI=; b=fetrouV2OEJlYHfvWoXFk4tHZ3oilJKsepM+N6nzyETkOmtrpD2ce1JMWp3q/Bbmtq 4I3ABOm7Xl+HQGMmDQnYAo8R9Sy4OaoMtvIVJP6pAiWmwk/DV6gCg+pFqM2ZGOT4v7T5 dn5807hkqt7SNXHYRfw7rSM08is76IrkQBUv4dw8AAUvpFfXjthv+rsDy6I1VwCsLu+B r/eMi7hKBuytcDFg3V7hosB0YheCMZQoicSTNuY+eexUeRNiHrScTd5q+DegJr50QSY0 Ux1HoGpyjbGI9Ua1PSIJWbjwl0xVQeJAnVGxBL5LPQoShChD6NmXr4ri5+GqZ/1Yt3mu cyHg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.231.40 with SMTP id td8mr10426342pbc.150.1339090480985; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.199 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:34:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Announce mailing list approvals From: Dave Page To: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b339b7370f5cb04c1e54c1e X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkcgyG/eXe/ayj2rrDt98fy68A/YtWfOdeZTDLGkUkYVzq8TIlycw03UxPghmlzO4znCUIY X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201206/13 X-Sequence-Number: 20707 --047d7b339b7370f5cb04c1e54c1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [for want of a better list...] Who keeps approving replies to messages on -announce? I've seen two today; one asking to be removed from the list, and one asking about RPMs of postgres-xc. Neither should have been approved. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company --047d7b339b7370f5cb04c1e54c1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [for want of a better list...]

Who keeps approving repli= es to messages on -announce? I've seen two today; one asking to be remo= ved from the list, and one asking about RPMs of postgres-xc. Neither should= have been approved.



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--047d7b339b7370f5cb04c1e54c1e-- From robertmhaas@gmail.com Sat May 23 16:04:17 2026 Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7639066CF for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:23:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ScjEm-0005UY-OR for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:23:21 +0000 Received: by vcbf11 with SMTP id f11so527111vcb.19 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:23:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JD9flkwywm+eXaJfjOXRREkjxpL+FwiI3b19APOIYB0=; b=MrpfSOWFeLIjlF/wn9tfooKb3HxZKhV3fYkRqPRIt/rPxU+rws6uKskEZckln6rE23 Xr7rNew7YIAx90iNE/JhXoT1kHls3hQkfAoYhUJ/IM72a8FCtQ+Ic1h8VjgTtlD1dX9P hndoLff3nn997R3TP1TrSyFGWI50uaHRARQ9i8Jilvt3j7+KRwQ0q0S16AJSM48yRlLf TPXDItr3gZtXoKFdxatRxh8orKKARyaGYTqgKyZ3a5/XB3xbb9ShZRd9rERg1VMxCT+m 2STlL1OY25kKEA6HhiPSi2dD6Le8NRdK9D9h5Bmjmwlz+WimKNj6pxFW03t5agNnAe+g OmpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.155.197 with SMTP id t5mr3500738vcw.6.1339100587818; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.239.79 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:23:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:23:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Announce mailing list approvals From: Robert Haas To: Dave Page Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201206/14 X-Sequence-Number: 20708 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Dave Page wrote: > [for want of a better list...] > > Who keeps approving replies to messages on -announce? I've seen two today; > one asking to be removed from the list, and one asking about RPMs of > postgres-xc. Neither should have been approved. +10. This seems to happen constantly. It's really annoying. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company From robertmhaas@gmail.com Sat May 23 16:04:17 2026 Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68441D84656 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:21:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-gg0-f174.google.com ([209.85.161.174]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd2sj-0007qP-Ak for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:21:54 +0000 Received: by gglu4 with SMTP id u4so1448592ggl.19 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4F3jpbE8CAI5XPsf8IbL4oh8+38XYDnXvTDoDEt/W9I=; b=Bi/fvfVEyglyFHOjAlNT2QH04OSzR2YpZlRp7Py2NX4HAWOJTR3wyzUfDKgB6ip1dy ua0HbuuGUkuGpwuqbLFR9iYtueUxWRZ2aw8oqW/1DmBxXsccPzJYqnLFdFS/cIw09K0N DCURITmrD6mqAoO5bKQpPjTE+obA8RWWM3ZwVozDHgynPWeknCUUgtI0hC4QLHGW3i1s wjRWadKhD7ZrsDAG0uPOz5y0sq53FUAB4PW/UXxgtNinVGxBchuijF2HMiJazvzSzzTW bKTR66k6eTLXWxZvXaDk/ctECvh5T420qo3zontYa7pCVDBYFX3+IBQJcHi0rDEbY4K2 ylrA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.237.9 with SMTP id uy9mr3134841igc.40.1339176099749; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.8.212 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:21:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:21:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Announce mailing list approvals From: Robert Haas To: Dave Page Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201206/15 X-Sequence-Number: 20709 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Dave Page wrote: >> [for want of a better list...] >> >> Who keeps approving replies to messages on -announce? I've seen two toda= y; >> one asking to be removed from the list, and one asking about RPMs of >> postgres-xc. Neither should have been approved. > > +10. > > This seems to happen constantly. =A0It's really annoying. OK, this has happened about three more times on the same thread. Here's my guess: nobody's moderating those postings. Somehow, the rules for moderation have gotten screwed up, and posts from people on other PG mailing lists are just being allowed through willy-nilly. Can someone please care about this? --=20 Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company From magnus@hagander.net Sat May 23 16:04:17 2026 Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66A1D84656 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:27:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd2yJ-0007ye-Ns for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:27:41 +0000 Received: by lbbgm6 with SMTP id gm6so1530614lbb.19 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=TdO3dIsFZjSQHgN0GMHSb0sKtGdDqCVQOlvhJKUko/o=; b=moWwbndo9jXoQYCDub8Yl1XFHFrCrIRnU4Jhr5QuBkr3qcJ0mnFR3BII7kG0aOdkxt D4UFRaRg6wodj2Dv5hf9ugsYhSyaqJzSEVCVJCYvUFoDi9ueV9I0vKsuwSH84QXO+9La rtAgJUkpbBiYjd0ttFsdxSFUMvC99YOlhetlTWg8osnF6rPxAXv/woPf4EzvB99VxLAV /4KO4WWMKzrEIRyAC0R/CjXFcsHJF52V+3NABTCr8GsD0ybBAvPwTTz+qf9GPn/2y2ri 4jNz+OuoBxaqo7OnUOG+8K1RAPxY9Sx1XstE1PIHPrcUVPscyNiEBXBkfcT4X5scUWm2 Lrtw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.170 with SMTP id tt10mr9194269lab.48.1339176446383; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.21.234 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 19:27:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Announce mailing list approvals From: Magnus Hagander To: Robert Haas Cc: Dave Page , PostgreSQL WWW , Alvaro Herrera Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlGBX4NeZlnNSeGU9YcsClmvifQ7K7+pQbQAtjU3Qhc6RB+IqSTNQtno+PP+oV6Y8IprpOz X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201206/16 X-Sequence-Number: 20710 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Robert Haas wrote= : >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Dave Page wrote: >>> [for want of a better list...] >>> >>> Who keeps approving replies to messages on -announce? I've seen two tod= ay; >>> one asking to be removed from the list, and one asking about RPMs of >>> postgres-xc. Neither should have been approved. >> >> +10. >> >> This seems to happen constantly. =A0It's really annoying. > > OK, this has happened about three more times on the same thread. > > Here's my guess: nobody's moderating those postings. =A0Somehow, the > rules for moderation have gotten screwed up, and posts from people on > other PG mailing lists are just being allowed through willy-nilly. That's not my guess. My guess is that it's someone who moderates many lists, and just checks the *contnets* of the mails. Which is perfectly on-topic for any other list, so it gets approved. And perhaps by somebody either not on this list, or not paying attention on this list :) > Can someone please care about this? I don't really know the mj2 config. AFAICT it's set up to moderate everything except for a very specific list of people. I can't actually figure out how to view that list of people :-), but it's "pgsql-announce:restrict". Alvaro, can you check? --=20 =A0Magnus Hagander =A0Me: http://www.hagander.net/ =A0Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ From dpage@pgadmin.org Sat May 23 16:04:17 2026 Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A87D8465C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:32:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd32f-000892-EJ for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:32:18 +0000 Received: by vcbf11 with SMTP id f11so1118751vcb.19 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=yyHrpRxq1U6Cl3xBrLyxnj9Awm1RKz3wbliO5S3TZec=; b=c2qb4SI9YFKyHm2McbUyEIhR0nvE37BHG5wYBiLmxa8YQY0Aeud7pbhaZNDAwX3FEw mUD7thVaPMKp7zOlKu2bWh2T55emRq6c1MLesjXkfJ4WehvdYeDvlGF/jq6hRiUWEj8L atwCYLaSfXAhzIfhHyXbMip8zp6n3A9MrKrIj+7Jeh/rygJqdWIIQCfzHLxxeCV14PVe Gevomb2ZHl3tPicTDAw9U6fH67WcILZk+FVoP7GVBQpPplgI2L7zqCRM9E9jmoMIQx/j nAejbtqFQBKzrewStmuuHOT3ZkbKPwqumQ3U/Ux0cz3MDEdssUQPkmCgcxaq9djLr+Br mLuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.29.69 with SMTP id i5mr6105442vdh.84.1339176716194; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.182.168 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:31:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Announce mailing list approvals From: Dave Page To: Magnus Hagander Cc: Robert Haas , PostgreSQL WWW , Alvaro Herrera Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmLUtHSu49Gh++OE7+daG/Ln1ifqrL9zSoysVsnIzvb0OomLc2QOsrC+o0etBtYi/6FFOSJ X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201206/17 X-Sequence-Number: 20711 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote= : > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Robert Haas wrote= : >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Robert Haas wrot= e: >>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Dave Page wrote: >>>> [for want of a better list...] >>>> >>>> Who keeps approving replies to messages on -announce? I've seen two to= day; >>>> one asking to be removed from the list, and one asking about RPMs of >>>> postgres-xc. Neither should have been approved. >>> >>> +10. >>> >>> This seems to happen constantly. =A0It's really annoying. >> >> OK, this has happened about three more times on the same thread. >> >> Here's my guess: nobody's moderating those postings. =A0Somehow, the >> rules for moderation have gotten screwed up, and posts from people on >> other PG mailing lists are just being allowed through willy-nilly. > > That's not my guess. > > My guess is that it's someone who moderates many lists, and just > checks the *contnets* of the mails. Which is perfectly on-topic for > any other list, so it gets approved. > > And perhaps by somebody either not on this list, or not paying > attention on this list :) > > >> Can someone please care about this? > > I don't really know the mj2 config. AFAICT it's set up to moderate > everything except for a very specific list of people. I can't actually > figure out how to view that list of people :-), but it's > "pgsql-announce:restrict". Members are Marc Fournier, Robert Treat and David Fetter. The only one of those that I can imagine actually needs un-fettered access (pardon the pun) is David - but he's a moderator anyway. So, I've set moderate to yes for now, so all messages need to be moderated. If any more come through, someone isn't paying attention. --=20 Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company From greg@turnstep.com Sat May 23 16:04:17 2026 Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CFFD84658 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 18:57:33 -0300 (ADT) Received: from zql.com ([206.222.31.58]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd7BS-0004lB-AM for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:57:32 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost) by zql.com with smtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd7BD-0007sr-NS; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:57:15 -0400 From: "Greg Sabino Mullane" To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Announce mailing list approvals X-PGP-Key: 2529 DF6A B8F7 9407 E944 45B4 BC9B 9067 1496 4AC8 X-Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:57:15 -0000 X-Mailer: JoyMail 2.4.0 Message-ID: <57151d4db817dab3d2feca4ab6427ebf@biglumber.com> X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201206/18 X-Sequence-Number: 20712 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 > My guess is that it's someone who moderates many lists, and just > checks the *contnets* of the mails. Which is perfectly on-topic for > any other list, so it gets approved. FWIW, and as a moderator, it is not me. And I don't want to point fingers, but if you check the archives, it's usually the same person responsible for mis-approved posts. :) - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 201206081756 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEAREDAAYFAk/SdSEACgkQvJuQZxSWSshpIQCgrKk3QkGPHJuIFolC3JkgZHFk Vz4AoPiB7gKM/EZT7ftuPcizkyHAwznZ =VuSI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From david@fetter.org Sat May 23 16:04:17 2026 Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E98219F3CC for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:20:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from 173-164-140-181-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([173.164.140.181] helo=fetter.org) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sdx2m-0003BH-Du for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:20:01 +0000 Received: by fetter.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id C4B77805F3; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:19:46 -0700 From: David Fetter To: Magnus Hagander Cc: Robert Haas , Dave Page , PostgreSQL WWW , Alvaro Herrera Subject: Re: Announce mailing list approvals Message-ID: <20120611051946.GC23085@fetter.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Pg-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Archive-Number: 201206/21 X-Sequence-Number: 20715 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 07:27:26PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Robert Haas wro= te: > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Robert Haas w= rote: > >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Dave Page wrote: > >>> [for want of a better list...] > >>> > >>> Who keeps approving replies to messages on -announce? I've seen > >>> two today; one asking to be removed from the list, and one > >>> asking about RPMs of postgres-xc. Neither should have been > >>> approved. > >> > >> +10. > >> > >> This seems to happen constantly. =A0It's really annoying. > > > > OK, this has happened about three more times on the same thread. > > > > Here's my guess: nobody's moderating those postings. =A0Somehow, the > > rules for moderation have gotten screwed up, and posts from people > > on other PG mailing lists are just being allowed through > > willy-nilly. >=20 > That's not my guess. >=20 > My guess is that it's someone who moderates many lists, and just > checks the *contnets* of the mails. Which is perfectly on-topic for > any other list, so it gets approved. That'd be me. Mea culpa. Cheers, David. --=20 David Fetter http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter@gmail.com iCal: webcal://www.tripit.com/feed/ical/people/david74/tripit.ics Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate