Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ghzu3-0002ya-GZ for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:43:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ghzu2-0007EI-6j for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:43:26 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ghzu1-0007EB-NS for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:43:25 +0000 Received: from mail-lf1-x142.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::142]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ghzty-0002oF-MD for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:43:24 +0000 Received: by mail-lf1-x142.google.com with SMTP id c16so11240278lfj.8 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 08:43:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=h1Guk7sILrhS5mDflhpHSFQzVzXHPhEo0pnUMXrErkI=; b=ChR5QP227XLVXffw5UoBZg4tc4dlMMLIr8tSLEdIe2w7tWDfhk8cjKL7L6bBJikmxX 9GzCHNz1U6Z+tDBMLFHu/pbFbsHegK5wx0nTZcPz9Yj/pCVFtq6Bj6SyGffhCmM3iE7s eDppJ5tHfqp6zroby4Eh0uzXAtniGLw6KhkiSXVeckpLNsBZfl1L8PRHbPWr5MAlLGcy BsnPXRG47zvfERlBeDMPVlLs+lWeGNZDvZS+mryHj46YnUBT0h2G0N78AzjKLnT3h3al H9tZ99Bluq9snNwpO6SHPl1Z3TT1M+j8RXZ5t0UpBFnw6AJ2iw2WRDtBbiL6MUu3Bn1V +65A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=h1Guk7sILrhS5mDflhpHSFQzVzXHPhEo0pnUMXrErkI=; b=ZJF9glT2iDMmgTWVWTZmcN/Gbb04tKd4wz5iGevzoAdB+/OZ4NTQWNr2zGcaGXU7St DLi0uFzh4D8uuBP9K0DmD6+CrmJS5ZCUwzKsy79LCJABK2P1U/Y9syhNYdhCyEBBIJqD y+PcfOIwsyQBGA49pfwIt1IsJt44IV6MIeUCVh9y1d5eOaobNoGr902aMmfGlQTncJQC byutnSHg3MRP+cWZMEN1nBK5GqQbgqZiczP6rL0s68yjLU7R2rCoUg+2muE5wEfGr7Z3 0n6EvK42AYZzUhcf1saW4KVOAmoIkmI0DHaw1T2xP/wWAycs7YZaodVuFjIH6L6JuIwB BHaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcwUaLS11QYb7mYP8bun6PC7g4waJZj7jCEgkcJa/s3bdmaGXVH hXK0nKNHBk4DZ1Jl3M7z2x2yUaibpn72uDnMP90= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6lNRGkvV0cnpwYqQ3U28gkdrxlCwVK3sJzy2QuwmcSUOQcSc7xvFms6JjbfzcIN2ULRICoJ9lF+G+hVWrv/08= X-Received: by 2002:a19:ee08:: with SMTP id g8mr8803898lfb.72.1547225000995; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 08:43:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190110171835.GP2528@tamriel.snowman.net> <3281.1547142423@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190111.100804.2220477848676088079.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp> <20190111163805.GT2528@tamriel.snowman.net> In-Reply-To: <20190111163805.GT2528@tamriel.snowman.net> From: Robert Haas Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 11:43:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Policy on cross-posting to multiple lists To: Stephen Frost Cc: Tatsuo Ishii , Dave Page , Tom Lane , Dean Rasheed , PostgreSQL Hackers , Magnus Hagander Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Stephen Frost wrote: > Thoughts? Specific votes in one of those directions would help me, at > least, figure out what should be done today. Well, you know, you could just undo the ban which you imposed unilaterally and which nobody so far has said they liked, and multiple people have said they disliked. Then after having the public discussion about what the policy should be, you could implement the conclusions of that discussion. I mean, personally, I have no problem with SOME cross-posting restrictions, but nothing you've proposed so far seems very good, other than maybe the >2 rule. But if you're looking to understand what people want better, you don't really need more votes. What has been said by a whole bunch of people is not in any significant way unclear. They don't like the restrictions, and they do like being consulted. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company